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Originally Posted by Alikado
Arabs & Jews have been at each others throats for centuries, so some Islamaphobia & antisemitism are to be expected in those groups, what I find disgusting / disturbing is it coming from other groups with no axe to grind.
That is historically inaccurate.
Arabs did not cause the Holocaust neither were they in any numbers in Europe or the UK.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
Do you think that leaving the EU will stem any tide of antisemitism in this country? How?
Leaving the EU will provide some containment from Europe and a greater hope of UK containment should antisemitism escalate here.
France is particularly appalling from the Far Right and Far Left as
documented by attacks from followers of Islam and the Yellow Vest demonstrators.
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Antisemitism is a growing problem in the UK. It's a major problem in The Labour Party.
Labour MP suggests breakaway MPs may be 'financially backed' by Israel
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/l...srael-1.480301
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Originally Posted by steve
Happened here last week too.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-slam-15807376
Jewish schools in the UK employ security guards like France.
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Is there anywhere the non denominational honest British people can go to get away from all this Religious we are better than you shi*e I don't giva a toss whether you worship a pair of worn out Hushpuppies so long as you don't include me in this witchunt.
Bl**dy Religion has a hell of a lot to answer for.
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Every summer there is a large contingent of Orthodox Jewish people who travel to Southport from Manchester. They regularly travel here.
We were talking to some of them, they were really nice and friendly. We were told that they enjoy coming away from Manchester for a break because of all the racism that they suffer in Manchester. They are often called names and spat at - by Muslims. These people are successful business people, they have their businesses in Manchester and moving is not an option. Muslims dislike the Jewish people, Indian people dislike Pakistani people, Seikhs hate the Muslims, the Polish hate the Russians, the British are the most tolerant of all nations.
While there were just a few of each nation in our country, each nation tolerated the other in this strange country. But as greater numbers of various nations entered the UK, the least tolerant became more aggressive - they were protected and made more confident by joining with and collaborating with, the larger number of brothers.
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
Is there anywhere the non denominational honest British people can go to get away from all this Religious we are better than you shi*e I don't giva a toss whether you worship a pair of worn out Hushpuppies so long as you don't include me in this witchunt.
Bl**dy Religion has a hell of a lot to answer for.
Islam is not a religion - it is a way of life. Do not believe for one moment that some who follow Islam, follow only the good writings of the quaran - that is a fallacy. There are a large number of different groups of Islamic people and they each vie with one another to gain supremacy. In the UK, there are two main groups, the Sunni and the Shiite Muslims. The Sunni Muslims consider the shias infidels. It is the Sunni Muslims who have demanded and have obtained so many rights in the UK. This is to ensure that the Shias remain oppressed and for the Sunnis to show that their faction is the supreme race. This is the same situation in each of their home countries that has been going on for decades.
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Originally Posted by steve
Is that perhaps, due to the fact that France supports Palestine?
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Have no personal experience of antisemitism in any way, am not Jewish by the way but that is of no consequence, however it is clear that some MPs are receiving virulent abuse, much of it via the internet.
It is clear that there are factions in this country who are anti Jewish, but I do wonder how much of this is from any genuine thought or how much is a sign of the moronic, imbeciles who appear to launch attacks covertly, whether via social media or undetected vandalism.
Yes we have seen attacks on Jewish cemeteries, but we have also seen attacks on cemeteries of other religions, even attacks on the National Memorial Arboretum, the Bomber Command Memorial and other National Memorials, is all of this sadly symptomatic of the attitude of too many in this country?
Even here in Southport we have a regular round of vandalism, are these the same morons who simply haven't as yet found a target for their brain dead activities?.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Have no personal experience of antisemitism in any way, am not Jewish by the way but that is of no consequence, however it is clear that some MPs are receiving virulent abuse, much of it via the internet.
It is clear that there are factions in this country who are anti Jewish, but I do wonder how much of this is from any genuine thought or how much is a sign of the moronic, imbeciles who appear to launch attacks covertly, whether via social media or undetected vandalism.
Yes we have seen attacks on Jewish cemeteries, but we have also seen attacks on cemeteries of other religions, even attacks on the National Memorial Arboretum, the Bomber Command Memorial and other National Memorials, is all of this sadly symptomatic of the attitude of too many in this country?
Even here in Southport we have a regular round of vandalism, are these the same morons who simply haven't as yet found a target for their brain dead activities?.
There's not any real anti-semitism, just a type of faux anti-semitism with no real intent, dislike nor prejudice behind it?
Does the same explanation apply to Islamophobia?
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Originally Posted by Desert Region
There's not any real anti-semitism, just a type of faux anti-semitism with no real intent, dislike nor prejudice behind it?
Does the same explanation apply to Islamophobia?
Don't know or even pretend to know, but imagine there is far more animosity towards Islam, particularly of the more extremist variety, there is certainly resentment when Muslims make demands that certain things must change to comply with their religious needs.
For me religious law or needs counts for nothing, this country experienced religious law until the 16th century, some of the hostility still simmers, I for one have no wish to see ANY religious law take precedence over national law.
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I simply can't work out why anyone would hate Jewish people, maybe I am ignorant or missing something historical but in real life I have never seen or noticed any Jew haters, it's a mystery to me.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Don't know or even pretend to know, but imagine there is far more animosity towards Islam, particularly of the more extremist variety, there is certainly resentment when Muslims make demands that certain things must change to comply with their religious needs.
For me religious law or needs counts for nothing, this country experienced religious law until the 16th century, some of the hostility still simmers, I for one have no wish to see ANY religious law take precedence over national law.
Following on, could it be that there isn't much "genuine" Islamophobia, with the majority of the faux Islamophobia being commited by "moronic, ibecile, brain dead" over the internet?
And if and when there are supposed religiously-motivated attacks on real life Islamic places of worship, for example, those can pe passed off as acts of "vandalism"?
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Originally Posted by MICK/GILLY
I simply can't work out why anyone would hate Jewish people, maybe I am ignorant or missing something historical but in real life I have never seen or noticed any Jew haters, it's a mystery to me.
The Jew haters I've personally encountered have been Socialists and Muslims.
At best as I recall, at the last General Election I think the Muslim vote percentage for Corbyn's Labour was in the 80% to 85% range.
Nazis (of course), Communists and Christians are also groups that are often supposed to harbour anti-semite beliefs.
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