Bloody Sunday Prosecutions

[Alikado]

Only 1 soldier is to be charged over the Bloody Sunday killings, 16 others and 2 IRA men will not be charged due to insufficient evidence, scandalous that this is still going on decades later & scandalous that this is in Civilian Courts.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime...Rmx&ocid=ientp

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271

[gazaprop]

Only 1 soldier is to be charged over the Bloody Sunday killings, 16 others and 2 IRA men will not be charged due to insufficient evidence, scandalous that this is still going on decades later & scandalous that this is in Civilian Courts.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/crime...Rmx&ocid=ientp

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47540271

No soldiers should be prosecuted over this incident, the whole thing is a PR charade. To say I am incensed by this is an understatement!

Under the Peace Accord there have been hundreds of terrorists granted immunity from prosecution and some pretty heinous crimes quite simply 'forgotten about'. Similarly hundreds of prisoners, serving time for terrorist activities, have had the gates of the prison opened and told to get off home!

The hand wringing liberals, of which there were plenty on the lunchtime radio programmes, cry murder yet, how many of them have been in the position those soldiers found themselves in.

In the weeks before, these 'peaceful civil rights marches' had descended into serious violence, with soldiers being seriously injured by various missiles, including petrol bombs.

Mistakes were made but in the heat of the moment not in cold blood as the majority of the terrorist's victims suffered.
The provo's carried no Rules of Engagement cards instructing them to shout repeatedly - STOP, IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY OR I FIRE before they could engage.

[Ceam]

No soldiers should be prosecuted over this incident, the whole thing is a PR charade. To say I am incensed by this is an understatement!

Under the Peace Accord there have been hundreds of terrorists granted immunity from prosecution and some pretty heinous crimes quite simply 'forgotten about'. Similarly hundreds of prisoners, serving time for terrorist activities, have had the gates of the prison opened and told to get off home!

The hand wringing liberals, of which there were plenty on the lunchtime radio programmes, cry murder yet, how many of them have been in the position those soldiers found themselves in.

In the weeks before, these 'peaceful civil rights marches' had descended into serious violence, with soldiers being seriously injured by various missiles, including petrol bombs.

Mistakes were made but in the heat of the moment not in cold blood as the majority of the terrorist's victims suffered.
The provo's carried no Rules of Engagement cards instructing them to shout repeatedly - STOP, IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY OR I FIRE before they could engage.

I'm guess the fact there is only one going to court they must have some damning evidence against the individual. He's not guilty yet, that is why we have a justice system. They will have their day in court and so will he.

[Toodles McGinty]

The whole incident sounds horrendous. I was only a kid at the time, but I know one or two chaps that served in Northern Ireland at that time.

They suffered PTSD. Can't stand fireworks, even. Every second they were over there they were in danger. It was, to them, a war zone. It was a war zone, but one where the enemy wasn't easily identified. They were never safe, even inside heavily guarded areas. One ex-soldier saw his mate get half his head blown away, right next to him in his vehicle. Given the bombs and the shootings, it's no wonder they reacted in the way they were trained.

On the other hand, I can see how those that lost family at the time are still angry. The marchers may well have intended to be peaceful, but given previous incidents, how can the soldiers know that? It was a dark piece of our history. Perhaps this prosecution might finally put it to rest.

It seems the province is already on something of a knife edge, with car bombs and mail bombs. It does no good to resurrect it all. Hopefully their day in court will allow everyone to move on.

[bambi275]

And yet mainland Britain is still bring threatened by the IRA with IEDs being sent in the post only this week! If prosecutions are going to happen then ot has to be on all sides and there should be no immunity from prosecution.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-a4089166.html

[said]

I agree! There should not be any prosecutions - those judging the soldiers should have been over in Ireland at the time. If they were not there then they cannot give a judgement.


Not to mention two of the most vicious terrorists were made MP's. There is a lot of misinformation and hidden facts about the Irish situation that has not been made clear even today.

[grassroots]

The whole incident sounds horrendous. I was only a kid at the time, but I know one or two chaps that served in Northern Ireland at that time.

They suffered PTSD. Can't stand fireworks, even. Every second they were over there they were in danger. It was, to them, a war zone. It was a war zone, but one where the enemy wasn't easily identified. They were never safe, even inside heavily guarded areas. One ex-soldier saw his mate get half his head blown away, right next to him in his vehicle. Given the bombs and the shootings, it's no wonder they reacted in the way they were trained.

On the other hand, I can see how those that lost family at the time are still angry. The marchers may well have intended to be peaceful, but given previous incidents, how can the soldiers know that? It was a dark piece of our history. Perhaps this prosecution might finally put it to rest.

It seems the province is already on something of a knife edge, with car bombs and mail bombs. It does no good to resurrect it all. Hopefully their day in court will allow everyone to move on.

Operation Banner was herrendous take it from me . I did tours .

[Alikado]

The Civilian Courts should have no jurisdiction, they were armed forces on duty and come under military law. To prosecute in a civilian court is totally wrong it is double jeopardy, the military obviously didn't think there was a case so the civil courts shouldn't come into it. What next Ghurkas prosecuted for carrying knives!

[grassroots]

The Civilian Courts should have no jurisdiction, they were armed forces on duty and come under military law. To prosecute in a civilian court is totally wrong it is double jeopardy, the military obviously didn't think there was a case so the civil courts shouldn't come into it. What next Ghurkas prosecuted for carrying knives!

Maybe the soldier in question is being charged to keep Irish decidents quiet. Stranger things happen .!!!

[Hamble]

Maybe the soldier in question is being charged to keep Irish decidents quiet. Stranger things happen .!!!

Let them be tried.
It is only fair the soldiers are represented by the best lawyers and paid for by the Government.

I say this knowing there are other wars were British soldiers committed murder rather than an act of self defence or to to protect civilians as a lone action or under the orders of a commanding officer.

[Alikado]

Let them be tried.
It is only fair the soldiers are represented by the best lawyers and paid for by the Government.

I say this knowing there are other wars were British soldiers committed murder rather than an act of self defence or to to protect civilians as a lone action or under the orders of a commanding officer.

Maybe but it should not be the jurisdiction of the Civilian Courts.

[Hamble]

Maybe but it should not be the jurisdiction of the Civilian Courts.

What type of court were you thinking of?

[Alikado]

What type of court were you thinking of?

They were Armed Forces under orders and as such should be subject to the Courts Martial.

[Hamble]

They were Armed Forces under orders and as such should be subject to the Courts Martial.

Court Martial would be inappropriate.

[Alikado]

Court Martial would be inappropriate.

Why?

They were Military Personnel under orders on active service, if the Courts Martial don't apply then when would they ever apply?