Inconsideration for allergy sufferers at local pub.

[Alikado]

What have you got against Blind Dogs? You monster!

It's discrimination, that's what it is.

Not only that I have been known to eat Hot Dogs!

[Delia Cheirons]

Toodles McGinty - re I suspect this poster has been around before, despite the post count... I would like to point out I am new to this - only registered for the first time today and did so as I felt strongly about the topic. And to put the record straight for others - we have been going to this pub for years and it had always been one of our favourites and disappointed that we are being made to feel we should find an alternative. As I have said previously I am not against owners taking their dogs - but please give thought to others that are not so keen and let them have a separate area.

[whiplash]

I would rather have dogs in pubs than kids.

[seivad]

They are not pets anymore they are Trophies.

Blind Dogs shouldn't be taken in places like Pubs, they could easily get trodden on or trip people up, However Assistance Dogs such as those used by Blind People should be an exception.

It reminds me of his post about "disabled" cars being a hazard on the Lord Street pavement.

[Starling]

12 dogs in a small bar? This sounds like my kind of pub - where is it, please?

[Darkside]

It's not just pubs though, people seem to think it's acceptable to take their dogs everywhere these days. I was in a car dealership the other week when a poor little dog that had been dragged around the place for over an hour couldn't wait any longer and peed on the floor. The owner didn't offer to clean it up, just said "Oh sorry, he does that sometimes". No one is allowed to have nuts on a flight where there is a nut allergy sufferer, so why should dogs be allowed in pubs etc. where there is a pet hair allergy sufferer? Dogs should not be in pubs. There was one poor creature in the Potting Shed in town the other Saturday night. Packed pub, loud music, no place for a cherished pet. Leave the poor things at home.

[Delia Cheirons]

It's not just pubs though, people seem to think it's acceptable to take their dogs everywhere these days. I was in a car dealership the other week when a poor little dog that had been dragged around the place for over an hour couldn't wait any longer and peed on the floor. The owner didn't offer to clean it up, just said "Oh sorry, he does that sometimes". No one is allowed to have nuts on a flight where there is a nut allergy sufferer, so why should dogs be allowed in pubs etc. where there is a pet hair allergy sufferer? Dogs should not be in pubs. There was one poor creature in the Potting Shed in town the other Saturday night. Packed pub, loud music, no place for a cherished pet. Leave the poor things at home.

Well said, totally agree

[Desert Region]

12 dogs in a small bar? This sounds like my kind of pub - where is it, please?

Yeah.

Which pub?

[Little Londoner]

When we had dogs the shortest walk I did unless it was peeing down was 3 miles, so if it was a warm day and I fancied a pint and a packet of salted peanuts on the way because of Allergists I couldn't. Perhaps pubs for allergy sufferers should be opened I doubt they'd last long as they'd probably be allergic to allergies. Why not wear a TeeShirt with ALLERGY SUFFERER on it and ring a handbell so we all know. Bl**dy Hell you've got to be psychic now to go to the pub.

[rainydaze]

Yeah.

Which pub?

Do you really expect an answer ? ( Unless, of course, their local is The Inn at Whitewell ).

[silver fox]

Don't hate dogs, in fact quite like dogs and cats, but dog owners are something else, it's dog owners who drag the poor animal into inappropriate places, who fail to see the dirty smelly piles of cr@p left by their pet, who can't understand why others don't want their dogs sniffing around them.

Long retired now, but spent more than the odd year or two in the motor trade, always amused me somewhat that as the anti-smoking campaign gathered strength, customers would demand a non-smokers car and would reject a car with the slightest trace of a smoker having been in the car, yet the cars we hated to take in were cars that had carted dogs around, it was/is almost impossible to remove dog hairs and the stink of dogs from cars.

[AdmiralAckbar]

I'm a bit confused.

(I'm not really, but it's a good opening line to illustrate the contradiction )

First you said ...

To our utter dismay we had to have our drinks outside last night and leave early due to the cold, as we could not step inside the pub because it was over-run by dogs.

then subsequently said ...

By the way, my reason for ordering a drink at my local knowing they allowed dogs, was because it was a nice evening and knew I could drink outside if there were too many dogs inside.

You complain about the dogs yet visited a place you knew would have them present.

You also complain that you had to drink outside (in the cold) yet state you went there knowing it was a nice evening and that you could drink outside.

I honestly don't know how you manage - (it has to be said) it must be so difficult being you.

[steve]

Having both an Airedale Terrier and a Labrador, and just spent the weekend at the National Terrier show and went to Crufts, would say we are dog lovers .... but ... don't take them to the pub.

There are some pubs where dogs are often taken and we enjoy seeing them but agree not where food is being served.

Eagle & Child at Bispham was very dog friendly when we were last there, nearly as many dogs as punters.

Our local Rose & Crown at Eccleston dog friendly but only see them in the bar area.

Slipway at Lathom also dog friendly

[steve]

ps for conspiracy theorists, this new user is most welcome and doesn't match any existing users by ip or email

Welcome to the site. Steve (admin)

[said]

When we had dogs the shortest walk I did unless it was peeing down was 3 miles, so if it was a warm day and I fancied a pint and a packet of salted peanuts on the way because of Allergists I couldn't. Perhaps pubs for allergy sufferers should be opened I doubt they'd last long as they'd probably be allergic to allergies. Why not wear a TeeShirt with ALLERGY SUFFERER on it and ring a handbell so we all know. Bl**dy Hell you've got to be psychic now to go to the pub.

It is not just health allergies though is it? it is obvious that there are a large number of dog owners on here far too quick to defend their own selfish needs. If such people were truly dog lovers as they claim to be - just what enjoyment is there for a dog taken into a busy premises, worried about being kicked by people's feet or people tripping over them, and made to sit or lie down while they wait patiently for their owner to decide to move? That is not to the animal's benefit for sure. Dogs are not happy in shopping/pub areas.

That apart - people treat their animals as humans. Again this is totally wrong since animals do not have the same intelligence as humans and do not have the same cognisance as humans do. It is impossible for animals to have the same perception or understanding as humans exhibit towards one another.

Or perhaps dog owners are concerned with their pets rights? That is a bit stupid - for if one sympathises with a dog's rights, then why not with the fleas that dogs carry? Have these fleas not got rights too?

'Microscopic study of the human brain has revealed neural structures, enhanced wiring, and forms of connectivity among nerve cells not found in any animal.' PNAS. This is also supported by several other publications on the research of animals.'

As to the benefits of humans - there is very little on the health side
since there is a very real risk from zoonoses, for example Pastuella which can be passed to humans by a dog licking someone. and vector borne diseases transmitted from fleas and ticks.

There are a number of intestinal worms that can infect dogs and cats, and they vary according to the species. In general, these include roundworms, hookworms, whipworms and tapeworms, and they are very prolific. In fact, one worm can produce more than 100,000 eggs per day, which are then passed in the pet’s feces and spread throughout the area the pet roams. Once in the environment, some of these eggs can remain infective and present a health risk for your pet and humans for years. There are very few risks of human to human transmitted diseases and even these are not as prolific as those transmitted from animals. PNAS.

When people go dressed for a night out, they do not want air born animal hairs on their clothing. People with expensive belongings such as cameras do not want their very expensive equipment knocked to the floor by unruly animals. People go to relax - they do not want animals walking around them while they do so.

A little bit of common sense appears to be lacking among dog owners, along with social responsibility.