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Originally Posted by Delia Cheirons
Toodles McGinty - re I suspect this poster has been around before, despite the post count... I would like to point out I am new to this - only registered for the first time today and did so as I felt strongly about the topic. And to put the record straight for others - we have been going to this pub for years and it had always been one of our favourites and disappointed that we are being made to feel we should find an alternative. As I have said previously I am not against owners taking their dogs - but please give thought to others that are not so keen and let them have a separate area.
Happy to see a new poster on here - don't be put off by some of the responses, not everyone will agree with you especially on this particular topic as there appear to be many dog owner's on here. But I consider that you are right to complain and express your point of view - just as they are right to respond with their views, rightly or wrongly. Anyway - do stay around and good luck.
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Originally Posted by said
People with expensive belongings such as cameras do not want their very expensive equipment knocked to the floor by unruly animals.
The amount of times I've had my Hasselblad in for repair after leaving it on a pub table, then some unruly mutt has whacked it with it's tail. Well, I can't even count.
If my camera needs a night out, it's 'Spoons from now on. At least it'll be safe with their clientele.
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I live in quite a rural area, just outside of Southport. Every Sunday I take my dogs out for a walk usually down the canal, and always stop at 1 of 2 dog friendly pubs which are really out of the way, for a cheeky pint.
Now these pubs are usually very busy on a warm day, with like minded people, making the most of the sunshine with thier dogs. Now first of all, I tie my dogs up outside, and then sit outside with them, but I do see a lot of people inside with thier pets, sometimes while they eat in the bar. I have no problem with this.
I would imagine that if these 2 pubs that I personally visit on a weekend, closed thier doors to dogs, they would lose a lot of revenue, especially in the summer, as the majority of business is from passing trade, usually dog walkers.
Now I'm almost certain that there are more public houses that don't allow dogs in, than there are that do. If you don't like having dogs in pubs, move along to the next one, it's down to your personal choice.
It's the same as smoking, I'm an ex smoker, and I smoked when the smoking ban came in, and I believed then, and still believe now that pubs should be allowed to apply for a smoking licence, with certain guidelines. Maybe 1 in 10 pubs allow smoking in a given geographical area, so that people have a choice. Although it doesn't bother me anymore not being allowed to smoke in a pub, there should be an element of choice for the public.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
The amount of times I've had my Hasselblad in for repair after leaving it on a pub table, then some unruly mutt has whacked it with it's tail. Well, I can't even count.
If my camera needs a night out, it's 'Spoons from now on. At least it'll be safe with their clientele.
Sarcastic git!
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Originally Posted by whiplash
I would rather have dogs in pubs than kids.
Could not agree more
Take care out there
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Originally Posted by rainydaze
Do you really expect an answer ?
No .
A thread started about a local pub, with the original poster half a dozen comments in, and yet still managing to not name the pub .
How very inconsiderate!
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Last summer I was in a town centre pub when a couple came in with a big dog, it started licking the table right near my drink which I find disgusting but the owners were rude to me when I told them about it, it was as if they thought the dog had more right to be there than human customers
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I don't mind dogs in pubs so long as they are well behaved and under control - even a badly behaved dog pales into insignificance when put against what really winds me up and that is ----
Parents who think it's perfectly ok to inflict their screaming kid/s on all the other passengers in an aircraft
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Originally Posted by gazaprop
I don't mind dogs in pubs so long as they are well behaved and under control - even a badly behaved dog pales into insignificance when put against what really winds me up and that is ----
Parents who think it's perfectly ok to inflict their screaming kid/s on all the other passengers in an aircraft
You seem to miss the whole point. When a family with children fly from one airport to another, the airlines won't accept a request that the kids be placed in the baggage hold together with all the luggage, and tying them to the wings would make the aircraft unsafe. If you have kids, maybe you can explain to the rest of us how you always managed to have them behave absolutely prim and proper and never make noises or run around when others were present. Unfortunately, planes have limited space, the customers sit closely together, and kids have always had a tendency to make themselves heard!
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Originally Posted by Derek H
You seem to miss the whole point. When a family with children fly from one airport to another, the airlines won't accept a request that the kids be placed in the baggage hold together with all the luggage, and tying them to the wings would make the aircraft unsafe. If you have kids, maybe you can explain to the rest of us how you always managed to have them behave absolutely prim and proper and never make noises or run around when others were present. Unfortunately, planes have limited space, the customers sit closely together, and kids have always had a tendency to make themselves heard!
My apologies Derek, I wasn't specific enough. I meant in the context of that oh so important, must have, simply couldn't do without, package trip abroad - complete with babes in arms and toddlers in tow. It's not essential travel so - don't take them on foreign holidays which involve travelling in an aircraft.
Maybe I'm an old curmudgeon but hey ho - I suspect a significant number of folk will be with me on this one.
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Originally Posted by gazaprop
My apologies Derek, I wasn't specific enough. I meant in the context of that oh so important, must have, simply couldn't do without, package trip abroad - complete with babes in arms and toddlers in tow. It's not essential travel so - don't take them on foreign holidays which involve travelling in an aircraft.
Maybe I'm an old curmudgeon but hey ho - I suspect a significant number of folk will be with me on this one.
Well, to put it bluntly, I'm not with you on this one, and I will be 80 in November! I travelled to the Canaries last year with my three grandchildren (9, 6 and 3) on a holiday. And just why shouldn't I? By far the majority of kids on board were well behaved, including our three. But a lot of grown ups made a lot of noise and drank a lot (read too much) beer and spirits. I prefer the kids, to be honest!
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Reason: The comma in the final sentence is important!
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Originally Posted by Derek H
Well, to put it bluntly, I'm not with you on this one, and I will be 80 in November! I travelled to the Canaries last year with my three grandchildren (9, 6 and 3) on a holiday. And just why shouldn't I? By far the majority of kids on board were well behaved, including our three. But a lot of grown ups made a lot of noise and drank a lot (read too much) beer and spirits. I prefer the kids, to be honest!
Yes, but your grandchildren are neither babes in arms nor toddlers. I've seven of them and, I'm a very actively involved Granddad, but even I'd think twice about taking the three year old on a flight.
I've had the good fortune to travel abroad four times over the last two years, twice each to Lanzarote and Majorca.
On three out of the four occasions the flight experience was less than brilliant due to babies bawling lustfully - on one of the Lanzarote trips 'mummy' was of the non-interventionist persuasion.
Now, if that's your idea of a good time old son then fill yer boots.
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Originally Posted by Derek H
Well, to put it bluntly, I'm not with you on this one, and I will be 80 in November! I travelled to the Canaries last year with my three grandchildren (9, 6 and 3) on a holiday. And just why shouldn't I? By far the majority of kids on board were well behaved, including our three. But a lot of grown ups made a lot of noise and drank a lot (read too much) beer and spirits. I prefer the kids, to be honest!
True! But then again, usually when I am flying out anywhere I make sure that my trips do not coincide with school holidays. The most annoying people I came across were two men sitting behind me who were in their twenties. They spoke loudly and kept on fidgeting digging their knees into my back - after I spoke to them, pleasantly they went quiet for the rest of the trip.
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I've just returned from Lanzarote, on both flights there was a young couple with a babe in arms. Both mum & dad kept the baby occupied and he/she wasn't any trouble at all, on the other hand on the return flight we had to endure the loud drunken "ladies" who seemed to think it was OK to swear, sing (well caterwaul) throughout the flight.
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Originally Posted by said
True! But then again, usually when I am flying out anywhere I make sure that my trips do not coincide with school holidays. The most annoying people I came across were two men sitting behind me who were in their twenties. They spoke loudly and kept on fidgeting digging their knees into my back - after I spoke to them, pleasantly they went quiet for the rest of the trip.
They probably nodded off.
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