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Be very careful when driving out of town into regions you are not familiar with. It has now become a common practice for authorities to change the speed of dual carriageways - sometimes more than once on any particular dual carriageway. These changes are fairly recent and are supposedly for more child safety. Not to mention that traffic on the Promenade was moving very slow today and a child still got knocked down even then.
The speed on a normal dual carriageway is 60mph - providing that there is no street lighting. If there is street lighting, the speed is 30mph. (The speed signs appear to have reduced in size now too, and are often placed at a height, hidden by foliage.)
BUT, in Salford, just outside the University - the dual carriageway has street lighting - but the speed is just 20mph. I am now an expert on this matter as I have just attended a course having all this explained to me.
Surely if the authorities were really so concerned about people and road accidents - they would ban motor vehicles altogether - or any vehicles for that matter, as shown by the following:
"Personal injury is not so frequently caused from carriage accidents as from horses ridden, horses bolting with the lady or gentleman riding on the Row, or stumbling when going over the stone crossings, are daily occurrences; and I have seen some terrible injuries sustained both by rider and the unfortunate pedestrian who happens to get in the way." Edward Owen, Hyde Park, Select Narratives, Annual Event, etc,
during twenty years' Police Service in Hyde Park, 1906
Are people - in particular, young children - not taught the highway code anymore?
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The speed on a dual carriageway is 70mph.
National Speed Limit is 60mph.
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
The speed on a dual carriageway is 70mph.
National Speed Limit is 60mph.
Yeah, with a division. You try getting up to seventy these days on a dual.
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Originally Posted by said
I am now an expert on this matter as I have just attended a course having all this explained to me.
I feel you've surpassed yourself with this ^.
Bravo, said .
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Originally Posted by said
Yeah, with a division. You try getting up to seventy these days on a dual.
The East Lancs, 70+ is easily achievable.
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
The East Lancs, 70+ is easily achievable.
Yeah! Got done on there too!
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Originally Posted by said
The speed on a normal dual carriageway is 60mph - providing that there is no street lighting. If there is street lighting, the speed is 30mph. (The speed signs appear to have reduced in size now too, and are often placed at a height, hidden by foliage.)
BUT, in Salford, just outside the University - the dual carriageway has street lighting - but the speed is just 20mph. I am now an expert on this matter as I have just attended a course having all this explained to me.
Perhaps you should go back and this time listen to what they were trying to teach you.
The National speed limit on a Motorway or a Dual Carriageway with a central reservation is 70 mph unless indicated otherwise by a speed limit sign.
The National speed limit on a non urban single carriageway is 60 mph unless indicated otherwise by a speed limit sign.
The National speed limit on an urban single carriageway is 30 mph unless indicated otherwise by a speed limit sign.
The clue to the max speed allowed are the speed limit signs, not if there is or isn't lamp posts on the road - which you should have learnt from the Highway Code when you took your driving test.
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/legal/speed-limits/
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
The speed on a dual carriageway is 70mph.
National Speed Limit is 60mph.
Formby byepass is 60mph !!!!!!!
REST IN PEACE THE 96.
Y.N.W.A.
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Originally Posted by grassroots
Formby byepass is 60mph !!!!!!!
Coming towards Southport past the aerodrome it is 50mph one way only.
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Originally Posted by said
Yeah! Got done on there too!
Sounds like you're a repeat offender!
Some people never learn, I'll wager that on your course you were the one (there's one on every course) that disputed and challenged everything the Course Leader said.
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Originally Posted by said
Are people - in particular, young children - not taught the highway code anymore?
Bit rich from someone forced to go on a Speed Awareness Course.
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Originally Posted by grassroots
Formby byepass is 60mph !!!!!!!
Like the Tarleton bypass, they used to be 70mph but due to poor driving by others it they have been reduced.
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Originally Posted by said
Yeah, with a division. You try getting up to seventy these days on a dual.
If a road doesn't have a "division", it's a single carriageway.
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Originally Posted by Taxi Driver
Like the Tarleton bypass, they used to be 70mph but due to poor driving by others it they have been reduced.
The Tarleton by pass average speed cameras are a cash cow, virtually all the accidents on that road have been in one area only, that stretch already had traffic "calming" measures and a speed limit, the answer there would have been to close the crossing at that point.
Surprise, surprise there have been accidents at the same place since the average speed cameras came into use, sure they have cut speed on that road and changed it to a mobile traffic jam, most of the time lane 2 is empty, with drivers glued to speedometers rather than the road.
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Originally Posted by grassroots
Formby byepass is 60mph !!!!!!!
and is clearly marked as such, Reason being that the highway codes says it's 70 unless otherwise stated.
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