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Originally Posted by local
I need to know more about this Shower Curtain, ha ha.
It certainly shows that Farage is doing something right, the sum total of this load of tosh is he has a rich patron who supports his cause.
I always thought he was an Arthur Daley/ Sid James character shuffling around the media but now I see he has some very wealthy contacts prepared to back him .
I am now more impressed with him.
To the extent at which Channel Four has a reputation of a huge lack of accuracy - what exactly does this prove? Mr. Banks is a very rich business man and I doubt very much that his investment for Mr. Farage's talents would have been for nothing. Brexit supporters are fully aware of this smear mongering, they have seen it many times. Surely it is obvious that while none of the other Parties have received even MINOR negative comments - only one has?? Why would that be, i wonder.
Mr. Banks is not associated with The Brexit Party. I believe the tycoon Mr. Richard Tice is one of the board members. I have paid my £25 and I am confident of getting my money's worth.
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Originally Posted by Graham
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Yeah! and the reason why Brexit has not happened yet. Inactivity is how the conservatives have performed to date.
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Originally Posted by jonboi
Why are some of those people who voted to leave the EU in 2016 so afraid of a second or confirmatory public vote on any deal the Government comes up with, with regards to the EU? So much has changed since the 2016 Referendum; certainly the circumstances now are not what I thought they would be back in 2016.
Whether you are a die-hard leaver, or equally a die-hard remainder, or anything in between, surely a people’s vote, second referendum, or confirmatory vote, whatever you want to call it is the most democratic way for everyone to affirm or reaffirm their position or even change their minds under these chaotic circumstances.
We are all so much more knowledgeable now about the issues involved in either leaving the EU altogether, or having a partial union with the EU, or any other “solution” that comes up, that we are all in a better position to make a judgement on our own individual position with regards to the EU, a much better position it seems to me than the political parties who are supposed to represent us, and who are totally fragmented over what we do about our membership of the EU.
It’s not about keeping having referendums until we get what we want whatever our individual position, as that will never work anyway. It’s about a final say for the people of this country based on current facts and with the much better information we have today, and did not have in 2016, over what we want to do – stay or go.
We are very lucky to live in a democratic country where we can freely vote for what we believe in, and we should use it. So I say ask the people again, as this is true democracy.
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Fear does not come into it - Common sense does!
"Three key European treaties — Maastricht, Nice and Lisbon — were rejected by Danish and Irish voters before being ratified, after crucial changes, in a second referendum. Ever since, U.K. voters have been fed the idea that a second vote amounts to a violation of democracy."Politico
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Originally Posted by said
Fear does not come into it - Common sense does!
"Three key European treaties — Maastricht, Nice and Lisbon — were rejected by Danish and Irish voters before being ratified, after crucial changes, in a second referendum. Ever since, U.K. voters have been fed the idea that a second vote amounts to a violation of democracy."Politico
.....and some are certainly gullible enough to swallow!
STOP BREXIT!
On Yer Bike!
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Originally Posted by The PNP
.....and some are certainly gullible enough to swallow!
Have you read any of the treaties from start to finish?
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Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer
Have you read any of the treaties from start to finish?
Why, have you?
STOP BREXIT!
On Yer Bike!
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Originally Posted by The PNP
Why, have you?
STOP BREXIT!
You're the one accusing people of being gullible but by your answer I would hazard a guess that you haven't...……………………...So have you?
Remember I didn't vote!
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Originally Posted by local
Blimey its Godwins Law again surely even the most angry remoaner doesn't put Farage in with Hitler.
Of course not! I simply used Hitler as Time's Man of the Year to illustrate that while "most influential" means the person that has had the most impact, the impact isn't always a good one. Uncle Joe Stalin was also a Time's Man of the Year. If you're really, really lucky... maybe you'll be Q's 2019 Man of the Year. Make of that what you will
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Originally Posted by said
I have paid my £25 and I am confident of getting my money's worth.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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On Yer Bike!
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Looking at the language recently used by Farage and Yaxley-Lennon
NF "I hope you are with us on Thursday, let's give them the shock of their lives"
YL "Send them a message they'll never forget"
I was wondering who they actually mean by 'them' ???
Last edited by Graham; 18/05/2019 at 07:54 AM.
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Originally Posted by said
Yeah! and the reason why Brexit has not happened yet. Inactivity is how the conservatives have performed to date.
So you condone violence?
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Originally Posted by said
Do you honestly think that people care a jot where the campaign money comes from?
Yes. Especially when reading through the campaign propaganda that has been sent unsolicited to my address using that money, where Farage states and I quote;
"Let's put the principles of Truth, Honesty and Integrity at the heart of our democracy"
Either the Brexit Party are totally transparent about their funding OR Farage is lying.
I suspect it's the latter especially the way he conducts himself;
“This is absolutely typical! There’s a campaign going on, and none of you will even ask me about it.”
“So about the campaign,” says a journalist. “Who is funding it?”
“See?, absolutely no questions about our policies!”
“And what are your policies?” asks the journalist.
(more blustering and diversion follows!)
Originally Posted by said
The greater majority of the electorate are not that fickle.
I think you meant gullible?
Last edited by Graham; 18/05/2019 at 08:18 AM.
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Perhaps someone (I can't be ar5ed) will look how much the 2016 Referendum cost the taxpayers of this Country? The result was LEAVE like it or not. So now because it was the wrong result for some they want to WASTE the same again and again until the result suits them the plain and simple answer consists of TWO words the second one being OFF.
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Originally Posted by said
I have paid my £25 and I am confident of getting my money's worth.
Your magic beans are in the post.
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