Trump or Corbyn?

[Alikado]

Who would take Corbyn back to the days of Hitler and put him in power ?

Corbyn is a typical war fosterer who allow the evil to embed themselves.


The likes of Saddam Hussein and Assad rely on people like him to grow their power base.

The world would probably be a better place if Saddam and Assad were still in power, OK they were despots but the Arab world has always been ruled by them but they do keep control and the likes of ISIS / Al Queda etc would not be flourishing. The total of lives lost to these despots would be less than what has been lost by the Wests interference.

[Toodles McGinty]

As for Jewish people - they are British people among whom I have many friends and have had for many, many years. I do not see them as Jewish when I am socialising with them

Jolly decent of you.

As for Hitler - his ideas were understandable, if you are a lunatic as he was - as a leader he was an abomination of humanity - but he was not alone, although I doubt if any have gone to such hideous lengths as he did.

Hitler, Trump, Yaxley-Robinson, Orban or Farage. Little power hungry men. The same methods have been employed by fascists throughout the centuries. As I said on another thread. And people fall for it every single time. People are falling for it right now, in this country. There is thread after thread on the same subject. People who've been convinced that someone else is taking something from them, all through lies and half-truths.

Sad that we never learn and we never will.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

The world would probably be a better place if Saddam and Assad were still in power, OK they were despots but the Arab world has always been ruled by them but they do keep control and the likes of ISIS / Al Queda etc would not be flourishing. The total of lives lost to these despots would be less than what has been lost by the Wests interference.

The world would be a better place if America stopped flexing it's muscles all the time and we stopped going along for the ride.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Who are you trying to kid? You always respond to topics on politics! That is like someone who claims to have given up on smoking but smokes cigarettes just the same!

Just because I gave up on something doesn't mean I can't still comment. I just don't have any time for the BS politicians come out with and most important I don't put them in power!

[seivad]

As for Jewish people - they are British people among whom I have many friends and have had for many, many years. I do not see them as Jewish when I am socialising with them, they are people the same as every other - in many respects they are better than many - for they bring up their families to have respect for others and are loyal to traditional aspects of life. I was temporary banned from this site, for copying and pasting part of a query brought up in the Jewish Gazette, that had been, in turn, posted by one of their Jewish readers. A fact I found rather hilarious but typical of the new liberal movement that we find ourselves embroiled in today.

There's no way you're getting away with that lie. Apologies to all for the length of the following quotes from the thread in question.

https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/f...5034439-11.htm

Post 154

The UK did not have a nuclear bomb in 1945 - that was bluff. The American s used an Atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - but luckily only 1.7% of the content material actually detonated - the Americans killed 250,000 people, 8% of which were military, the rest were civilians. To put that in perspective - 300,000 Jewish people were said to have died in the German War camps.

Post 155

Good grief, man... where on earth do you get your facts from? Even without fact checking, how can you possibly be unaware that millions of Jews lost their lives in the camps? Around 1,000,000 Jewish people were killed in the Auschwitz complex alone. Out of the est. 6,000,000 Jewish lives lost in the Holocaust, I believe about 3,000,000 were in the camps.

Post 168

Opinions such as '300,000 Jewish people were said to have died in the German War camps'? Holocaust denial is against the law in most European countries.

Your reply was this post, with information copied from the Institute for Historical Review, whose mandate is to promote Holocaust denial and defend Nazism. Not, as you stated, copied from a comment written by a Jewish reader on the Jewish Gazette’s website.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...torical-review

Post 176

There have been numerous estimations on the actual numbers involved in the holocaust. The early published figures were so obviously inaccurate - but this is possibly one of the most accurate based on the amount of research carried out.

The Jewish "basic" population of about 2, 850, 000 couldn't possibly have suffered a loss of something like six million. The general magnitude was certainly half a million, but the actual number of Jews who died in the German concentration camps might well have been as low as 300,000 or as high as 600,000." Institute for Historical Review.

The Holocaust Encyclopedia gives the Jewish population of Germany in 1933 as according to the census of June 16, 1933, the Jewish population of Germany, including the Saar region (which at that time was still under the administration of the League of Nations), was approximately 505,000 people out of a total population of 67 million, or somewhat less than 0.75 percent.

Inaccuracies in reports are only those that reach the level of wishful criticism, i.e. that they do not exist.

Post 177

The figure of 6million is still regarded as the best estimate, it isn't 100% accurate for many reasons, some give a figure of 6.3million some as low as 5.8million.

The numbers identified by name to date are now 4.75million people, the number murdered in Russia (where no records were kept) is estimated to be in excess of 1 million, plus a known 500,000+ Jewish/Russian POWs.

Calculating the population of Germany is utterly pointless, the Nazis transported the Jews from all over occupied Europe apart from Russia where the Einsatzgruppen carried out their ideological murder.

I am not Jewish, nor do I have the slightest connection to anyone who is, but you can't be permitted to deny or defend the indefensible, prowling Holocaust denier sites is pretty low.

Post 178

Your ignorance knows no bounds. Jews were transported to the death camps from every German occupied country in Europe. Educate yourself.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conte...illing-centers

Your post tells me everything I need to know about you. I've always known you were a troll, making outrageous comments designed to attract attention to you. But this latest one is totally unacceptable. We have a forum policy on Qlocal, and you've crossed the line. A temporary ban should give you pause to consider future comments.

Maybe you should discuss your theories on the number of Holocaust deaths with your imaginary Jewish friends.

[Alikado]

Just because I gave up on something doesn't mean I can't still comment. I just don't have any time for the BS politicians come out with and most important I don't put them in power!

By not voting and giving up , it means you are prepared to accept the outcome - whatever. You don't put them in power so you can't complain.

[local]

The world would probably be a better place if Saddam and Assad were still in power, OK they were despots but the Arab world has always been ruled by them but they do keep control and the likes of ISIS / Al Queda etc would not be flourishing. The total of lives lost to these despots would be less than what has been lost by the Wests interference.

Blimey tell that to the Kurds,

oh and Assad do you want to rethink that one ?

[said]

The world would be a better place if America stopped flexing it's muscles all the time and we stopped going along for the ride.

Oh so true! The most recent is the Sudan bombing of oil tankers - the USA blame Iran! What! when the USA put sanctions on the Sudanese telling them that they were not allowed to sell their oil. Then when the Sudanese changed the names of their tankers to European names, and started shipping their oil over to Europe - hell! they get bombed! and somehow it was Iran who bombed them?? Weird that, when the USA is the World's greatest consumer of oil/oil products. The USA is now in financial difficulties - again! The last time that happened was in 1993, around when the Alaskan oil wells began drying up. The twin towers came down. Those who happened to be blamed were oil producing countries who had to be taught a lesson!

[silver fox]

Oh so true! The most recent is the Sudan bombing of oil tankers - the USA blame Iran! What! when the USA put sanctions on the Sudanese telling them that they were not allowed to sell their oil. Then when the Sudanese changed the names of their tankers to European names, and started shipping their oil over to Europe - hell! they get bombed! and somehow it was Iran who bombed them?? Weird that, when the USA is the World's greatest consumer of oil/oil products. The USA is now in financial difficulties - again! The last time that happened was in 1993, around when the Alaskan oil wells began drying up. The twin towers came down. Those who happened to be blamed were oil producing countries who had to be taught a lesson!

Not sure were you're coming from here, the problems with Sudanese oil supplies are down to disputes between Sudan and South Sudan, as far as I'm aware neither country has any oil tanker shipping, the recent tanker explosion in Sudan was caused by people trying to siphon fuel from a crashed petrol tanker, a standard road vehicle.

There has been some reregistering and renaming of Iranian shipping in an attempt to get around sanctions, but as far as I'm aware none of the vessels attacked were Iranian, there is certainly much going on that we won't know about, but speculation and accusation without evidence is dangerous.