Orange Lodge parade

[gazaprop]

Much needed income for the hard pressed retail and hospitality sectors or - an inconvenient influx of poorly behaved drunkards?

[grassroots]

Much needed income for the hard pressed retail and hospitality sectors or - an inconvenient influx of poorly behaved drunkards?

I'm sure the retail and hospitality won't agree with your opinion.

[local]

Much needed income for the hard pressed retail and hospitality sectors or - an inconvenient influx of poorly behaved drunkards?

Thats easy both.


Its probably though where were at in the towns decline,

why kid ourselves our main attractions are a mud covered field and a shopping street full of sad tat,empty shops with pavements blocked with more tat.

If your lucky you might get a parking ticket as a souvenir.

The reality is we have little to offer in our current state.

[Toodles McGinty]

Yes, I'll go with 'both' too.

For supermarkets and offies, who sell crates of lager and cider in Liverpool and Bootle, it's a good thing.

For those pubs and food outlets who allow them in, it's a welcome boost. Especially those who host the 'official' bands and marchers.

For those retailers that need eyes in the back of their heads because half their stock simply disappears, not so much. For those who have to walk through crowds of p!$$*d up idiots, again, not so much.

For the police who are so overwhelmed by numbers that any zero tolerance policy on drinking in the street goes right out of the window, probably not that great.

Depends if you are going to make money off them. For me, the marchers seem OK, even if such a display of religious intolerance has no place in this century. Or the past couple of centuries. The followers, usually inebriated and screaming profanities at their kids, urinating in doorways and generally being a nuisance are most unwelcome. But I can just stay in until they are gone.

But it's only one day. Whether the trade they bring is greater than the cost of policing and cleaning up after them is another thing entirely.

[gazaprop]

I'm sure the retail and hospitality won't agree with your opinion.

They were questions not opinions - do keep up old fruit!

[salus.populi]

But it's only one day. Whether the trade they bring is greater than the cost of policing and cleaning up after them is another thing entirely.

And we all pay for the policing and clean up whilst it's a few busineses that benefit from the trade.

[local]

I wonder if any of the march organisers read this sort of thing.

I suppose to some p*ssed up, making a nuisance of yourself and urinating in a doorway is just a normal trip out.

Maybe its me.

[salus.populi]

I wonder if any of the march organisers read this sort of thing.

I suppose to some p*ssed up, making a nuisance of yourself and urinating in a doorway is just a normal trip out.

Maybe its me.

The usual excuse from the organisers is that it's the hangers on rather than the marchers that cause the problems.
Though I've seen plenty marchers in uniform urinating in public.

[local]

The usual excuse from the organisers is that it's the hangers on rather than the marchers that cause the problems.
Though I've seen plenty marchers in uniform urinating in public.

We should adopt a zero tolerance of anti-social behaviour and arrest a few of them quickly and whisk them away before the crowd gets a chance to react.

It might put a few off for next time if they were treated firmly.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Thats easy both.


Its probably though where were at in the towns decline,

why kid ourselves our main attractions are a mud covered field and a shopping street full of sad tat,empty shops with pavements blocked with more tat.

If your lucky you might get a parking ticket as a souvenir.

The reality is we have little to offer in our current state.

Scouser's should feel at home

[said]

They were questions not opinions - do keep up old fruit!

How on earth do you know he's an 'old fruit'?

[Alikado]

I wonder if any of the march organisers read this sort of thing.

I suppose to some p*ssed up, making a nuisance of yourself and urinating in a doorway is just a normal trip out.

Maybe its me.

Sounds like a Hen Party in Blackpool or Scarborough!

[said]

We should adopt a zero tolerance of anti-social behaviour and arrest a few of them quickly and whisk them away before the crowd gets a chance to react.

It might put a few off for next time if they were treated firmly.

There is zero tolerance on anti social behaviour during the parades. I often stand right in the middle of the larger supporter's groups, where they have been drinking all day. I am not intimidated and there is no danger. The people who take part in either the parades themselves or as supporters are well used to drinking to excess and most can handle it. But the way they act and what they say while under the influence is very entertaining - half of them would leave the comedians standing! Many of you may disagree - but to see people enjoying themselves in this present day gloom is really great to see. Southport has lost it's carnival, it has no attractions - Southport needs the Orange parade!
There is no more litter, in fact less than when a golf tournament is on or a food festival is being held. There are no more drunken fights than on a normal weekend in Southport. Tolerance would be good, to share in the fun even better.

Even the numbers of Orangemen have become sadly depleted over the years - even the previous exuberance of those in the parades has become far more sombre. The long delays between the various groups in the parade makes people very despondent, they are unwarranted and now completely unnecessary. It is a great shame. The parades in certain parts of Ireland are in stark contrast to those held in Southport, there is a sense of danger, depending on where the march is being held. There is far more feeling between the Catholics and Protestants there.

I do not agree with the reasoning for the parades - but does it really matter? People need to let their hair down on the odd occasion - so let them!

[seivad]

Scouser's should feel at home

I'm not a Scouser, but honestly, tribal comments like this get my back up. Can Southport people honestly claim to be superior to their Southern neighbours? Maybe donkey's years ago, although it was debatable even then. Nowadays? Give your head a shake!

[Alikado]

There is zero tolerance on anti social behaviour during the parades. I often stand right in the middle of the larger supporter's groups, where they have been drinking all day. I am not intimidated and there is no danger. The people who take part in either the parades themselves or as supporters are well used to drinking to excess and most can handle it. But the way they act and what they say while under the influence is very entertaining - half of them would leave the comedians standing! Many of you may disagree - but to see people enjoying themselves in this present day gloom is really great to see. Southport has lost it's carnival, it has no attractions - Southport needs the Orange parade!
There is no more litter, in fact less than when a golf tournament is on or a food festival is being held. There are no more drunken fights than on a normal weekend in Southport. Tolerance would be good, to share in the fun even better.

Even the numbers of Orangemen have become sadly depleted over the years - even the previous exuberance of those in the parades has become far more sombre. The long delays between the various groups in the parade makes people very despondent, they are unwarranted and now completely unnecessary. It is a great shame. The parades in certain parts of Ireland are in stark contrast to those held in Southport, there is a sense of danger, depending on where the march is being held. There is far more feeling between the Catholics and Protestants there.

I do not agree with the reasoning for the parades - but does it really matter? People need to let their hair down on the odd occasion - so let them!

Absolute rubbish, public drunkenness and disorderly behaviour should not be tolerated, these parades by these bigots belong back in the middle ages and do nothing for the town, most towns have banned them years ago and for good reason.