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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    He's found a magic money forest, never mind tree. He's spouting utter bull*****, as always. He's spaffing himself senseless on the attention he's getting.

    And when it fails completely, he'll blame all those terrible politicians who didn't back a no-deal Brexit. Or he'll blame the EU. Or his duplicitous Cabinet. Or anyone except himself.

    As I write this, he's on TV doing his 'wifflewafflepifflepaffle'* horse crap, going on at some length, completely f*c!ng up.
    <ing up="" the="" speech="" he's="" been="" given="" and="" making="" no="" sense="" whatsoever.="" but="" if="" he="" blusters="" enough,="" he'll="" fool="" devoted.

    The emperor does not have any new clothes. He's a walking Potemkin village.

    But do tell me how intelligent he is again. Please. In that adoring tone. It makes me roar laughing.

    *John Crace.</ing>
    We will soon find out! BJ has promised £millions to the most deprived towns in the North (Hope that does not mean Anderson is about to get his grubby hands on even more money) and more money is being invested in Leeds/Manchester Railways.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    There you go, ruining it all with facts, again.
    Sorry, forgot, musn't allow reality to impede the flow of BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Ruined it like many by focusing wrongly on the Bus.

    I suppose the people who got fixated on it were attracted by the big red bus and put the thinking bit of their brains in neutral.

    The same with the "mess" which has clearly been created by the anti-democracy extremists.

    Boris is outplaying so many with his superior thinking.

    He is mightily dysfunctional no doubt and has more issues than a Newsagent but choosing where to point your opposition guns is something that should be thought about.

    At the moment the air is full of fluff and barrage Boris floats free laughing quite literally all the way to number 10.

    I bet "her indoors" is chuffed with the wine spiller now.
    Did you even check my post? I specifically said that the Boris bus was not in any way the main point.

    To date he has achieved his covetted position through the back door, what he does, we will see, but please hold on the sycophantic lauding of his massive intellect

    So far said plenty, done nothing, I won't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Did you even check my post? I specifically said that the Boris bus was not in any way the main point.

    To date he has achieved his covetted position through the back door, what he does, we will see, but please hold on the sycophantic lauding of his massive intellect

    So far said plenty, done nothing, I won't hold my breath.


    Of course I noticed the recent swerve from the red bus as it sinks in it wasn't a lie.

    Its not sycophantic to notice someone who gained a scholarship to Eton and Oxford is pretty bright and the people who criticise him generally aren't.

    In a well fought leadership campaign he romped home nothing "back door" about that.

    His opponent by contrast Jeremy he of private school Castle House did get two A Levels at Grade E which does demonstrate he could probably spell his own name but not much else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Of course I noticed the recent swerve from the red bus as it sinks in it wasn't a lie.

    Its not sycophantic to notice someone who gained a scholarship to Eton and Oxford is pretty bright and the people who criticise him generally aren't.

    In a well fought leadership campaign he romped home nothing "back door" about that.

    His opponent by contrast Jeremy he of private school Castle House did get two A Levels at Grade E which does demonstrate he could probably spell his own name but not much else.
    I still maintain the red bus was a lie, let's explain simply

    Customer looking to buy a car, likes the car, happy with price, concerned about fuel economy, sales person says "this can and will return 65-70 mpg, in fact it has exceeded that in a driven test" doesn't mention the test was on a banked oval track with cruise control set at 50 mph.

    Customer gets the car and soon discovers the car is returning closer to 40 mpg than 70 mpg, now did the salesperson lie? by your interpretation via legal argument, no it wasn't a lie, imagine the customer would think otherwise.

    Leadership campaign??????????? with the electorate composed of firstly your buddies in Parliament, then endorsed by a tiny proportion of the population.

    You keep banging on about his Eton education etc; that should be a down mark as representing the general population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    I still maintain the red bus was a lie, let's explain simply

    Customer looking to buy a car, likes the car, happy with price, concerned about fuel economy, sales person says "this can and will return 65-70 mpg, in fact it has exceeded that in a driven test" doesn't mention the test was on a banked oval track with cruise control set at 50 mph.

    Customer gets the car and soon discovers the car is returning closer to 40 mpg than 70 mpg, now did the salesperson lie? by your interpretation via legal argument, no it wasn't a lie, imagine the customer would think otherwise.

    Leadership campaign??????????? with the electorate composed of firstly your buddies in Parliament, then endorsed by a tiny proportion of the population.

    You keep banging on about his Eton education etc; that should be a down mark as representing the general population.


    Well unfortunately your simplistic analogy is plain wrong and if you still feel the statement was a lie a certain Mr Marcus Ball he of Brexit Justice UK would be very happy to have your support, you could share a fancy cupcake with him.

    He claims he has spent three years on the case full time.

    I would suggest he has spent three years fleecing gullible remoaners out of £300,000.

    The leadership campaign of the Conservative Party was exactly that and people voted (just) for a Conservative Government.

    Do you feel members of the Labour Party should vote for leadership of the Conservatives, that would be very odd indeed.

    Or perhaps Conservatives should vote for leadership of the Labour Party although if they did I am sure Jeremy would win again or maybe Dianne.

    Your petty class war hangups with Boris's education overlook the fact he is there to lead and battling through the ranks at Eton and Oxford is a far better proving ground than Meols Cop and Edge Hill unfortunately.

    Some of the finest minds send their children to these elite establishments at great expense.

    Hard though it may be the reality of life is winners breed winners and I accept I wouldn't have won a scholarship at Eton or Oxford but don't hold a grudge against those that have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Well unfortunately your simplistic analogy is plain wrong and if you still feel the statement was a lie a certain Mr Marcus Ball he of Brexit Justice UK would be very happy to have your support, you could share a fancy cupcake with him.

    He claims he has spent three years on the case full time.

    I would suggest he has spent three years fleecing gullible remoaners out of £300,000.

    The leadership campaign of the Conservative Party was exactly that and people voted (just) for a Conservative Government.

    Do you feel members of the Labour Party should vote for leadership of the Conservatives, that would be very odd indeed.

    Or perhaps Conservatives should vote for leadership of the Labour Party although if they did I am sure Jeremy would win again or maybe Dianne.

    Your petty class war hangups with Boris's education overlook the fact he is there to lead and battling through the ranks at Eton and Oxford is a far better proving ground than Meols Cop and Edge Hill unfortunately.

    Some of the finest minds send their children to these elite establishments at great expense.

    Hard though it may be the reality of life is winners breed winners and I accept I wouldn't have won a scholarship at Eton or Oxford but don't hold a grudge against those that have.
    How is my simple analogy wrong? Both are straightforward cases of deliberate misinformation with intent to deceive.

    The attempt to put the case in court was ill fated and never going to succeed, quite pointless really.

    No problem with Tories voting for the Tory party leader, but Boris himself was extremely scathing of the Brown take over from Blair for the position of PM, yet totally acceptable for him.

    My antipathy towards the Etonesque priority has nothing to do with so called class, but much more that far too many of all politicians have lived their entire lives in an insulated bubble with little or no understanding of real life.

    I did encounter one boss who after his own son had completed university, then sent the young man onto the shop floor, not just as a token, but he had to learn how to operate production machines at production levels.

    The change in that young man was dramatic, he didn't lose his education or his life style, he did gain real knowledge of just what the workforce actually did, plus all credit to him, he did become a real part of the production team, but examples of that are very few.

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    Wrong that's simple read it again;

    The Bus.


    “We send the EU £350 million a week, let’s fund our NHS instead”.




    Your analogy.


    Customer looking to buy a car, likes the car, happy with price, concerned about fuel economy, sales person says "this can and will return 65-70 mpg, in fact it has exceeded that in a driven test" doesn't mention the test was on a banked oval track with cruise control set at 50 mph.

    Customer gets the car and soon discovers the car is returning closer to 40 mpg than 70 mpg, now did the salesperson lie? by your interpretation via legal argument, no it wasn't a lie, imagine the customer would think otherwise.


    Context context..

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post

    No problem with Tories voting for the Tory party leader, but Boris himself was extremely scathing of the Brown take over from Blair for the position of PM, yet totally acceptable for him.
    Will you stop it with these facts!

    Just let Local doff his cap, feel inferior to Johnson purely because of an accident of birth, and spaff away over Fat Al's mega-intellect.

    You really aren't showing Johnson's 'Can Do Attitude', are you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Styx View Post
    On Him we have set our hope that He will continue to deliver ...Brexit by October 31 with or without a deal.

    The Final Countdown (hopefully)



    The absolute state of that post.

    Trump in America, Johnson here. What an absolutely shocking indictment on the state of politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashwan View Post
    The absolute state of that post.

    Trump in America, Johnson here. What an absolutely shocking indictment on the state of politics.

    Could have been much worse! It could have been Clinton in USA and Corbyn here! Be thankful for small mercies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Could have been much worse! It could have been Clinton in USA and Corbyn here! Be thankful for small mercies!

    When those are your four leading candidates it rather emphasises my point about the state of politics in the two countries.

    A vain, openly racist and misogynistic egotist over there and a lying buffoon here. It's beyond parody now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Will you stop it with these facts!

    Just let Local doff his cap, feel inferior to Johnson purely because of an accident of birth, and spaff away over Fat Al's mega-intellect.

    You really aren't showing Johnson's 'Can Do Attitude', are you?

    I do love it when the losing lefties support each other its like stumbling into an AA meeting.

    You carry on your bitter class war, envy pouring out at every turn it is amusing.

    He's only there because he got something I didn't delusion swimming round your head.

    Don't forget to drop a few bob into Dominic Cummings cup cake fund at your meeting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashwan View Post
    When those are your four leading candidates it rather emphasises my point about the state of politics in the two countries.

    A vain, openly racist and misogynistic egotist over there and a lying buffoon here. It's beyond parody now.
    So which party would you vote for in a General Election to deliver the Democratic Brexit vote?

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