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Hope Street Nuisance Neighbours!
Some months ago a number of people moved into a rental property on Hope Street (the end closest to Asda & opposite the back of Ashley Road). I have no problem with people enjoying themselves but these people are unbelievable. Almost every night shouting really loud and staring every time my son or I venture outside! It's like they get louder because they think they have an audience. Thank God I don't live next door because I feel so sorry for those people having to listen to the scream shouting and incessant fake laughing while trying to sleep. So selfish & self absorbed astonishing!
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Originally Posted by Moi
Some months ago a number of people moved into a rental property on Hope Street (the end closest to Asda & opposite the back of Ashley Road). I have no problem with people enjoying themselves but these people are unbelievable. Almost every night shouting really loud and staring every time my son or I venture outside! It's like they get louder because they think they have an audience. Thank God I don't live next door because I feel so sorry for those people having to listen to the scream shouting and incessant fake laughing while trying to sleep. So selfish & self absorbed astonishing!
I had worse for a while. Started by asking these unemployed neighbours very politely if they would keep the noise down as it was disturbing my sleep when I have to get up for work. They created even more noise. I kept a log of the incidences and contacted the council. Nothing was done after a few days - so I kept on to the council until they sent someone down. I handed over the log that I had kept and the council sent a letter to these neighbours. They continued with the noise and threatened me by shouting over the fence. When I went round to their house - they hid. I contacted the council again and the council handed the matter over to the Unsocial behaviour Unit who contacted the Landlord. The noisy neighbours were given notice to quit from the landlord.
I do not like to cause issues with neighbours - but my reasoning is that if they feel it is right to upset my life, then I have every right to upset theirs.
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Originally Posted by said
I had worse for a while. Started by asking these unemployed neighbours very politely if they would keep the noise down as it was disturbing my sleep when I have to get up for work. They created even more noise. I kept a log of the incidences and contacted the council. Nothing was done after a few days - so I kept on to the council until they sent someone down. I handed over the log that I had kept and the council sent a letter to these neighbours. They continued with the noise and threatened me by shouting over the fence. When I went round to their house - they hid. I contacted the council again and the council handed the matter over to the Unsocial behaviour Unit who contacted the Landlord. The noisy neighbours were given notice to quit from the landlord.
I do not like to cause issues with neighbours - but my reasoning is that if they feel it is right to upset my life, then I have every right to upset theirs.
Well good for you! They went quiet for a couple of weeks but they are back to their horrendous behaviour now! The way they laugh is unhinged. I can sleep in peace & turn my tv up but have to shut the windows and door when it's hot! Utterly rude & inconsiderate. x
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Originally Posted by Moi
Well good for you! They went quiet for a couple of weeks but they are back to their horrendous behaviour now! The way they laugh is unhinged. I can sleep in peace & turn my tv up but have to shut the windows and door when it's hot! Utterly rude & inconsiderate. x
OK! Then just contact the council and tell them that you are having to put up with your neighbours unsociable behaviour. Keep a diary of the times and the dates, make a copy and send it to the council. If nothing is done - keep on at the council until it is. If you know the landlord of the property, or the estate agents dealing with it - also complain to them. Landlords do have to ensure that their tenants respect the local community. I agree with you, it is very rude, very inconsiderate - and I bet there is either alcohol or illegal drugs involved, or both.
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Originally Posted by said
I had worse for a while. Started by asking these unemployed neighbours very politely if they would keep the noise down as it was disturbing my sleep when I have to get up for work. They created even more noise. I kept a log of the incidences and contacted the council. Nothing was done after a few days - so I kept on to the council until they sent someone down. I handed over the log that I had kept and the council sent a letter to these neighbours. They continued with the noise and threatened me by shouting over the fence. When I went round to their house - they hid. I contacted the council again and the council handed the matter over to the Unsocial behaviour Unit who contacted the Landlord. The noisy neighbours were given notice to quit from the landlord.
I do not like to cause issues with neighbours - but my reasoning is that if they feel it is right to upset my life, then I have every right to upset theirs.
Whereabouts was that in Town ?
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Originally Posted by Moi
Some months ago a number of people moved into a rental property on Hope Street (the end closest to Asda & opposite the back of Ashley Road). I have no problem with people enjoying themselves but these people are unbelievable. Almost every night shouting really loud and staring every time my son or I venture outside! It's like they get louder because they think they have an audience. Thank God I don't live next door because I feel so sorry for those people having to listen to the scream shouting and incessant fake laughing while trying to sleep. So selfish & self absorbed astonishing!
I had similar problems some years ago , Sefton council sorted it for me .
REST IN PEACE THE 96.
Y.N.W.A.
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We've suffered noise and anti social behaviour problems since the local bank was turned into a themed drinking bar. Crowds of up to a hundred young people can be out often until 11 at night. We can't open the window and we sleep with a fan on to drown out the row. At least our problem only happens when the weather is good, it must be awful for it to be a regular event.
With the help of our local councillor, sefton planning and licensing have helped and things have got better, but this is a very slow drawn out process but I remain positive that eventually the problem will be removed.
My advice get a councillor involved they know the system, and who to contact and their enquiries get answered.
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Must be quite a shock to the locality to go from a sedate Bank to a noisy bar, the planners seem to have got that one wrong or were their hands tied ?
Britannia ran rings round the planners with the Scarisbrick Hotel front.
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Originally Posted by local
Must be quite a shock to the locality to go from a sedate Bank to a noisy bar, the planners seem to have got that one wrong or were their hands tied ?
Britannia ran rings round the planners with the Scarisbrick Hotel front.
The don't have planning permission and we have been addressing the issue with the planning and licensing departments for over a year with the help of local councillors. We have won at every stage so far but these people know how to play the system. We will win eventually unless they go bust first.
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Originally Posted by local
Must be quite a shock to the locality to go from a sedate Bank to a noisy bar, the planners seem to have got that one wrong or were their hands tied ?
Britannia ran rings round the planners with the Scarisbrick Hotel front.
The former Bank was a source of anti social behavior and drug taking and many were happy to see the site redeveloped, there must have been a need for the establishment or it wouldn't be popular, the other establisments in the area couldn't have been catering for the locals needs.
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Originally Posted by Moi
Some months ago a number of people moved into a rental property on Hope Street (the end closest to Asda & opposite the back of Ashley Road). I have no problem with people enjoying themselves but these people are unbelievable. Almost every night shouting really loud and staring every time my son or I venture outside! It's like they get louder because they think they have an audience. Thank God I don't live next door because I feel so sorry for those people having to listen to the scream shouting and incessant fake laughing while trying to sleep. So selfish & self absorbed astonishing!
my friend is trying to sell his lovely bungalow near the town centre,,,it was a lovely peacefull location...then a very nice victorian block of flats became filled with recent eu arrivals....now its a nightmare,,,gangs drinking outside all evening,,,the washing hung out of every window drying...every window having loud music spoting all night,, every buyer just walks away!...what can be done?...or is this just the start of the town centre becoming a slum...
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Originally Posted by crocodile35
The don't have planning permission and we have been addressing the issue with the planning and licensing departments for over a year with the help of local councillors. We have won at every stage so far but these people know how to play the system. We will win eventually unless they go bust first.
i doubt you will get anywhere...in southport the planning is about who you know and pay, not what is the law...
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Originally Posted by local
Whereabouts was that in Town ?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by thediscovolante
my friend is trying to sell his lovely bungalow near the town centre,,,it was a lovely peacefull location...then a very nice victorian block of flats became filled with recent eu arrivals....now its a nightmare,,,gangs drinking outside all evening,,,the washing hung out of every window drying...every window having loud music spoting all night,, every buyer just walks away!...what can be done?...or is this just the start of the town centre becoming a slum...
Does the property belong to a private landlord? Do you know who the landlord is? If so, you could try approaching the landlord to ask him to ensure that his tenants behaved in a social manner - landlords are now responsible for the behaviour of their tenants.
If you do not know who the landlord is, or feel uncomfortable in approaching him then you can phone the council and tell them what is going on. You will need to keep a diary of events, dates and times for about two weeks. Take a copy of your diary and send this to the council. The council will either come down and have a word with the tenants, or will go and see the landlord. If that fails - ask if the anti-social team can do anything. You may have to make several phone calls to the council - but you will get something done about it.
This applies to any behaviour that you find upsetting. Loud music, constant barking dogs, loud shouting late at night, loud televisions, etc., Anything that gives you constant stress, sleep less nights, constant headaches, unable to concentrate in your own home, noise permeating into your own home so that you cannot enjoy a good quality of life, etc.,
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Originally Posted by thediscovolante
i doubt you will get anywhere...in southport the planning is about who you know and pay, not what is the law...
As from April 2016 - those changing a business into a night club, bar etc., must take into consideration the noise aspect and its affect on the local community. The premises must be prepared with suitable planning to use cladding, and other materials etc., and the owner must show that the noise will not cause harm to others. I believe that Boris Johnson has already announced something with regard to this for London.
Councils can act if:
"If noise is coming from Licensed Premises then we may not need to prove a statutory nuisance. Licences are issued with conditions in order to ensure that disturbance caused to the general public is kept to a minimum. Action can be taken against premises that operate outside of its licensing conditions."
"In the UK, you usually need two types of licence to run a public house, restaurant or club in accordance with the Licensing Act 2003. These licences are primarily for the sale of alcohol on your premises.In the UK, you usually need two types of licence to run a public house, restaurant or club in accordance with the Licensing Act 2003. These licences are primarily for the sale of alcohol on your premises.
You will need a premises licence that covers your building where you operate your business. This licence will be issued once your premises has been inspected and has met with all current health and safety and fire regulations. Your second licence is a personal licence. This empowers you as an individual to legally own and run the business.
These licences come with a lot of responsibility. To be able to keep your licences you will need to ensure that your business does not breach any of the laws that cover you, or else you could see yourself losing your licences and your premises being shut down. Should you fall foul of the law, then you can expect to be hit with heavy fines as a result, and may find yourself unable to obtain the same licences again in the future." Your Company foundations.
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