Hillsborough - it's a bit too late now!

[Alikado]

Has now been issued with a safety order.

Should have been done over 30 years ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-49294784

[grassroots]

Yep but late now , on the day it had NO SAFETY CERTIFICATE .

[Normal]

As somebody who has stood in the leppings lane end, i can honestly say the design of the ground outside and leading into the ground is very dangerous. There have been lots of dangerous issues that have arisen with many clubs fans over the years. I can't understand why it remains largely the same design to this day.

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As somebody who has stood in the leppings lane end, i can honestly say the design of the ground outside and leading into the ground is very dangerous. There have been lots of dangerous issues that have arisen with many clubs fans over the years. I can't understand why it remains largely the same design to this day.

I would have thought that ANY venue dealing with the public should have a high level of safety regulations in place to cover for any issue that may occur. Considering the failures at Hillsborough - I would have thought it would have been demolished and rebuilt properly.

[jamyramy]

I would have thought that ANY venue dealing with the public should have a high level of safety regulations in place to cover for any issue that may occur. Considering the failures at Hillsborough - I would have thought it would have been demolished and rebuilt properly.

what im about to say may beseen contentious,but the occurrence was an absolute disaster waiting to happen ,the behaviour of the authoritys absolutely abhorrent disgusting and beneath contempt.that said little is ever mentioned in all this as to why those fences across the countrys ground were placed in such un safe boundries , I get to my point at the tie there was a high level of pitch invasion so called fans of opposing side attacking each other ,players being assaulted ,and more true supporters invibing the game being attacked by groups which took pleasure in assaulting others ,so much so theyed come by the bus load at the weekends with trouble and trible violence in mind not the game.the result was a tradgedy of the most painfull to the innocent bystanders.those organised thugs and mindless gangs must equally share the blame for that time,everyone that invaded those pitches ,beat up another fan ,are as equally to blame for those fences and its inevitable tradgedy.so those out there that came for a bit of rumble back then your actions were part of its darkests tradgedys outcome!sorry if it offends,but feel it needs highlighting.a pryer for all .x

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what im about to say may beseen contentious,but the occurrence was an absolute disaster waiting to happen ,the behaviour of the authoritys absolutely abhorrent disgusting and beneath contempt.that said little is ever mentioned in all this as to why those fences across the countrys ground were placed in such un safe boundries , I get to my point at the tie there was a high level of pitch invasion so called fans of opposing side attacking each other ,players being assaulted ,and more true supporters invibing the game being attacked by groups which took pleasure in assaulting others ,so much so theyed come by the bus load at the weekends with trouble and trible violence in mind not the game.the result was a tradgedy of the most painfull to the innocent bystanders.those organised thugs and mindless gangs must equally share the blame for that time,everyone that invaded those pitches ,beat up another fan ,are as equally to blame for those fences and its inevitable tradgedy.so those out there that came for a bit of rumble back then your actions were part of its darkests tradgedys outcome!sorry if it offends,but feel it needs highlighting.a pryer for all .x

Don't you think there is far too much security involving football? You can go to a top baseball match in the States, and there is very little obvious security - you go to the game, enjoy it then go home. In most other countries, there are no fences, no separation of fans etc., Why not in the UK? If someone starts trouble then arrest them for the offence and ban them from the game for life.

If you walk past a building that has barred windows, you immediately think that there is something wrong with that building. If the building has no bars to its windows - you just walk past it without any negative thoughts. The fact that a game that should be enjoyable has so many controls on the people, creates a bad atmosphere even before the game starts.

[jamyramy]

Don't you think there is far too much security involving football? You can go to a top baseball match in the States, and there is very little obvious security - you go to the game, enjoy it then go home. In most other countries, there are no fences, no separation of fans etc., Why not in the UK? If someone starts trouble then arrest them for the offence and ban them from the game for life.

If you walk past a building that has barred windows, you immediately think that there is something wrong with that building. If the building has no bars to its windows - you just walk past it without any negative thoughts. The fact that a game that should be enjoyable has so many controls on the people, creates a bad atmosphere even before the game starts.

there wernt any fences years ago! at that time the situation was getting out of hand quite seriously on a weekly basis,buses of trouble makers up for a rumble come match time,thats my point ,those fences shouldn't hve been needed in the first place and the authoritys should have employed safer strategys to deal with the problem also

[Toodles McGinty]

Don't you think there is far too much security involving football? You can go to a top baseball match in the States, and there is very little obvious security - you go to the game, enjoy it then go home. In most other countries, there are no fences, no separation of fans etc., Why not in the UK? If someone starts trouble then arrest them for the offence and ban them from the game for life.

If you walk past a building that has barred windows, you immediately think that there is something wrong with that building. If the building has no bars to its windows - you just walk past it without any negative thoughts. The fact that a game that should be enjoyable has so many controls on the people, creates a bad atmosphere even before the game starts.

That isn't really the point. I agree with jamyramy. If you've ever joined in with tribal violence at football grounds, which was a huge problem in the 70s and 80s in particular, you've contributed to those railings going up around the grounds. And you've contributed towards those deaths at Hillsborough.

Regardless of the terrible layout of the ground, regardless of the absolute responsibility of the police in the tragedy, if you played even a small part in football violence, you've forced clubs to put up barriers. Barriers which prevented those victims from escaping onto the pitch.

Sadly it is still a problem today. Internationally it's a major disease in football. But even domestically, if you've seen the video of Liverpool fans being attacked by City fans after the Community Shield, it still blights the game.

Even beyond football, this tribal mentality is a canker in our society.

[Alikado]

That isn't really the point. I agree with jamyramy. If you've ever joined in with tribal violence at football grounds, which was a huge problem in the 70s and 80s in particular, you've contributed to those railings going up around the grounds. And you've contributed towards those deaths at Hillsborough.

Regardless of the terrible layout of the ground, regardless of the absolute responsibility of the police in the tragedy, if you played even a small part in football violence, you've forced clubs to put up barriers. Barriers which prevented those victims from escaping onto the pitch.

Sadly it is still a problem today. Internationally it's a major disease in football. But even domestically, if you've seen the video of Liverpool fans being attacked by City fans after the Community Shield, it still blights the game.

Even beyond football, this tribal mentality is a canker in our society.

This goes back many many years probably well over a century the British, particularly the English have believed that they are superior, it is continuing today with Brexit.