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  1. Published on: 15/08/2019 06:29 PMReported by: roving-eye
    Southport Residential Home Manager’s Dismay Over Empty Beds

    We are continually told that social care is in crisis! Southport hospital crammed with patients bed-blocking, elderly in the community receiving poor or inadequate care, and social workers close to meltdown due to the lack of resources.

    So how is it that Southport has residential care homes with multiple empty beds?

    Helen Eslick and her Compliance and Support Manager Katie Howard are dismayed and frustrated with the ongoing situation.

    Helen owner and registered manager of The Hollies Residential Care Home on Mornington Road said: "We used to be permanently full, however over the last year our occupancy has dramatically reduced due to lack of referrals from the local hospital or social services. Yet we see that the system can’t cope with the increase in elderly who are now so frail they are unable to look after themselves at home. We would all like to remain at home but at some point additional 24/7 care is required. Residential care is an affordable and much more economic care package for these lovely people. We shouldn’t be in a position we have empty beds."

    Recently, Helen was visited by Damien Moore MP for Southport who commented how homely The Hollies is. Helen mentioned the ongoing situation and the lack of referrals. The MP has promised to investigate and report back.

    Jonathan Cunningham MBE Chair of the North and South Sefton Care Home Group said: "Regrettably Helen’s situation is not uncommon across Sefton. Many smaller residential care providers are struggling with decreasing occupancy at a time when we need these providers the most.

    "I call upon the local Acute Trusts, Clinical Commissioning Group and Sefton Social Services to seek an urgent solution to this. We all agree that keeping mum or dad at home for the longest period is what is required but there comes a point when these residential care homes can provide the best, more economical source of appropriate care and quality of life.

    "The Hollies is a fabulous home, graded Good by the Care Quality Commission - I know I would like my Mum and Dad to be placed there. This is a crazy situation that needs addressing now."

    Pictured L - R: Katie Howard (Compliance and Support Manager) and Helen Eslick (Registered Provider and Care Manager)
     






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  3. pedoja says:15/08/2019 10:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by roving-eye View Post
    Southport Residential Home Manager’s Dismay Over Empty Beds

    We are continually told that social care is in crisis! Southport hospital crammed with patients bed-blocking, elderly in the community receiving poor or inadequate care, and social workers close to meltdown due to the lack of resources.

    So how is it that Southport has residential care homes with multiple empty beds?

    Helen Eslick and her Compliance and Support Manager Katie Howard are dismayed and frustrated with the ongoing situation.

    Helen owner and registered manager of The Hollies Residential Care Home on Mornington Road said: "We used to be permanently full, however over the last year our occupancy has dramatically reduced due to lack of referrals from the local hospital or social services. Yet we see that the system can’t cope with the increase in elderly who are now so frail they are unable to look after themselves at home. We would all like to remain at home but at some point additional 24/7 care is required. Residential care is an affordable and much more economic care package for these lovely people. We shouldn’t be in a position we have empty beds."

    Recently, Helen was visited by Damien Moore MP for Southport who commented how homely The Hollies is. Helen mentioned the ongoing situation and the lack of referrals. The MP has promised to investigate and report back.

    Jonathan Cunningham MBE Chair of the North and South Sefton Care Home Group said: "Regrettably Helen’s situation is not uncommon across Sefton. Many smaller residential care providers are struggling with decreasing occupancy at a time when we need these providers the most.

    "I call upon the local Acute Trusts, Clinical Commissioning Group and Sefton Social Services to seek an urgent solution to this. We all agree that keeping mum or dad at home for the longest period is what is required but there comes a point when these residential care homes can provide the best, more economical source of appropriate care and quality of life.

    "The Hollies is a fabulous home, graded Good by the Care Quality Commission - I know I would like my Mum and Dad to be placed there. This is a crazy situation that needs addressing now."

    Pictured L - R: Katie Howard (Compliance and Support Manager) and Helen Eslick (Registered Provider and Care Manager)
    Could it be anything to do with the exorbitant cost of a place in a Care Home that makes it almost impossible for relatives to afford the fees?

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  5. ausard2 says:16/08/2019 06:55 AM
    Not exorbitant prices, just the true cost
    of looking after someone.

  6. Coastal99 says:16/08/2019 08:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ausard2 View Post
    Not exorbitant prices, just the true cost
    of looking after someone.
    £800 - £1000 a week ?

  7. Little Londoner says:16/08/2019 09:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by pedoja View Post
    Could it be anything to do with the exorbitant cost of a place in a Care Home that makes it almost impossible for relatives to afford the fees?

    Accommodation (Building) =£?

    Nursing Provision =£?

    Carer Provision =£?

    Cooks & Kitchen Staff =£?

    Laundry and Laundry Staff =£?

    Heating Lighting =£?

    Cleaning =£?

    Maintenance (Carpets Buildings Electrics Gas Water Decorating)=£?

    Ancillary Staff (Wages/ Finance/Clerical)=£?

    Provisions (Food, Drink)=£?

    Insurance=£?

    Covering essential staff absences with Agency staff=£?

    I could go on and on, if you think it is a cash cow and easy money why don't you have a go. I don't know how much you pay for holiday accommodation for a week without someone to feed you wash you wipe your jacksie and sort your life out for you bring your medication when you get bladdered and have a hangover.

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  9. Starling says:16/08/2019 10:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ausard2 View Post
    Not exorbitant prices, just the true cost
    of looking after someone.
    It may well be the true cost - but that doesn't mean that relatives of a potential resident can afford to pay that amount, ongoing for a considerable period of time.

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  11. Starling says:16/08/2019 10:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post

    I could go on and on, if you think it is a cash cow and easy money why don't you have a go. I don't know how much you pay for holiday accommodation for a week without someone to feed you wash you wipe your jacksie and sort your life out for you bring your medication when you get bladdered and have a hangover.
    Are you suggesting that the owners of residential care homes don't make a profit? Obviously there's a difference between paying for holiday accommodation for a period of one or two weeks - and committing to pay a similar weekly amount for 52 weeks of every year.

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  13. gazaprop says:16/08/2019 12:12 PM
    Here's a little hand grenade into the debate -

    the elderly requiring the care are invariably the same people who provided early years care to their children.
    It seems that in today's society, the pursuit of an ever bigger house, a new car every three years, a couple of foreign holidays a year and - the latest electronic lobotomy device (or mobile phone if you like), top trumps any sense of duty or even love.
    I suppose it all comes down to which you covet most - transient material possessions or, your nearest and dearest.

    Before the bleeding obvious is stated - yes - I know there will be some elderly people who have no one.

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  15. Coastal99 says:16/08/2019 12:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    Accommodation (Building) =£?

    Nursing Provision =£?

    Carer Provision =£?

    Cooks & Kitchen Staff =£?

    Laundry and Laundry Staff =£?

    Heating Lighting =£?

    Cleaning =£?

    Maintenance (Carpets Buildings Electrics Gas Water Decorating)=£?

    Ancillary Staff (Wages/ Finance/Clerical)=£?

    Provisions (Food, Drink)=£?

    Insurance=£?

    Covering essential staff absences with Agency staff=£?

    I could go on and on, if you think it is a cash cow and easy money why don't you have a go


    All paid minimum wages with one or 2 seniors on a decent wage.

    If it's not a cash cow - which it is - why are there so many of them ?

  16. Mr B S Sniffer says:16/08/2019 12:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by gazaprop View Post
    Here's a little hand grenade into the debate -

    the elderly requiring the care are invariably the same people who provided early years care to their children.
    It seems that in today's society, the pursuit of an ever bigger house, a new car every three years, a couple of foreign holidays a year and - the latest electronic lobotomy device (or mobile phone if you like), top trumps any sense of duty or even love.
    I suppose it all comes down to which you covet most - transient material possessions or, your nearest and dearest.

    Before the bleeding obvious is stated - yes - I know there will be some elderly people who have no one.
    Good point.

    There is a faint whiff of socialism in there & that is the problem, it doesn't sit well with capitalists.

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  18. pedoja says:16/08/2019 08:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr B S Sniffer View Post
    Good point.

    There is a faint whiff of socialism in there & that is the problem, it doesn't sit well with capitalists.
    One of the biggest problems is that in many cases the 'carers' are often in the situation that they are fairly elderly themselves and they struggle to take care of their loved ones in the way that is required.

  19. onehorsetown2 says:20/08/2019 04:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Starling View Post
    Are you suggesting that the owners of residential care homes don't make a profit? Obviously there's a difference between paying for holiday accommodation for a period of one or two weeks - and committing to pay a similar weekly amount for 52 weeks of every year.
    Many are not making a profit or just breaking even, the reason why many are closing or being taken over by chains.


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