Retirement age 75.

[salus.populi]

On the UK political spectrum farthest left is Radical Islam as on the opposite end of the spectrum farthest right is Fascism.

radical islam has far more in common with right wing fascism than anything on the left.

Maybe you just assume white people hating brown people is the opposite of brown people hating white people and come to a conclusion that is so far wide of the mark it's laughable.

[Ceam]

We do make our own provision, the old age pension.

Yes, and as said, as we live longer that money gets more and more stretched. If you're planning on living on a state pension I feel for you and no I don't have loads of money, but I have had a private pension since I was 20 year old.

[Hamble]

Whoa. Stop right there, H.

I'm a white person. Born into Christianity. As yet I haven't gone to a Norwegian island and shot a load of schoolkids. Nor have I donned a bedsheet and hung any black people or burned a load of crosses. I've not shot a load of worshippers in a synagogue, nor taken pot-shots at a crowd of concert-goers in Las Vegas.

I'll assume you've never shot dead a Palestinian kid.

So shall we agree there's a hell of a difference between the general Muslim community, or Muslim whatever-party voters, and radical Islamic terrorists?

Just wondering why Baroness Warsi isn't a Labour voter?

Such dangerous generalisations.

My point was that in saying the Tory's were like 'Nazi's' you used an extreme example of far right.

I replied that it would be like me using an extreme example of far left of British Politics.

[Hamble]

radical islam has far more in common with right wing fascism than anything on the left.

Maybe you just assume white people hating brown people is the opposite of brown people hating white people and come to a conclusion that is so far wide of the mark it's laughable.

It is not about colour.

I am interested in your claim.
"radical islam has far more in common with right wing fascism than anything on the left."?

[Alikado]

Yes, and as said, as we live longer that money gets more and more stretched. If you're planning on living on a state pension I feel for you and no I don't have loads of money, but I have had a private pension since I was 20 year old.

But we are paying in more and more every year, if the contributions were paid into a fund as are private pensions it would be a lot higher.

[Hamble]

But we are paying in more and more every year, if the contributions were paid into a fund as are private pensions it would be a lot higher.

That is why people pay into private pension schemes to supplement State Pension and retire before the State allows you.

There are other State benefits
Bus pass
Free prescriptions
No N.I contributions on pensions.

[AdmiralAckbar]

I liken all this to be a bit like running a marathon.

At the start of the race, everyone knows it's a 26 mile run and they pace themselves accordingly, or at least as best as they can.

Increasing the distance affects everyone in the race, and whilst there will be some who could keep running for longer, there will be many more who will be staggering by the time they get to the original finish line, and quite a few who will not make it to the new finish line.

The only people who will not find a problem with changing the distance are the people who don't actually take part in the race.

In that regard, the people who are making these decisions about pensions probably don't need to work and could likely retire tomorrow with no financial worries.

[Ceam]

But we are paying in more and more every year, if the contributions were paid into a fund as are private pensions it would be a lot higher.

You have to remember that what you're paying in is actually going to those retired now and as those numbers have swelled the maths just doesn't add up. Your pension is paid by your kids.

[Ceam]

I liken all this to be a bit like running a marathon.

At the start of the race, everyone knows it's a 26 mile run and they pace themselves accordingly, or at least as best as they can.

Increasing the distance affects everyone in the race, and whilst there will be some who could keep running for longer, there will be many more who will be staggering by the time they get to the original finish line, and quite a few who will not make it to the new finish line.

The only people who will not find a problem with changing the distance are the people who don't actually take part in the race.

In that regard, the people who are making these decisions about pensions probably don't need to work and could likely retire tomorrow with no financial worries.

Nice post.
Problem is as the average age of dying goes up so does the strain on the system. There has to be a trade off. Can't say I'm to chuffed about it either. But that's life.

[Mr B S Sniffer]

I liken all this to be a bit like running a marathon.

At the start of the race, everyone knows it's a 26 mile run and they pace themselves accordingly, or at least as best as they can.

Increasing the distance affects everyone in the race, and whilst there will be some who could keep running for longer, there will be many more who will be staggering by the time they get to the original finish line, and quite a few who will not make it to the new finish line.

The only people who will not find a problem with changing the distance are the people who don't actually take part in the race.

In that regard, the people who are making these decisions about pensions probably don't need to work and could likely retire tomorrow with no financial worries.

Parasites like Sir Robert Devereux

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/86...ational-salary

[Mr B S Sniffer]

Nice post.
Problem is as the average age of dying goes up so does the strain on the system. There has to be a trade off. Can't say I'm to chuffed about it either. But that's life.

It could have been implemented so much fairer.

Waspi women should have seen their retirement age increase by maybe 12 months but not 6 years.

[Alikado]

You have to remember that what you're paying in is actually going to those retired now and as those numbers have swelled the maths just doesn't add up. Your pension is paid by your kids.

That is the Governments problem not the pensioners, they made the decision to fund it that way.

[AdmiralAckbar]

Nice post.
Problem is as the average age of dying goes up so does the strain on the system. There has to be a trade off. Can't say I'm to chuffed about it either. But that's life.

When there's a political will, the money will be found from somewhere - for example, how much has Johnson spent since he became PM and where did that all come from?

[Mr B S Sniffer]

When there's a political will, the money will be found from somewhere - for example, how much has Johnson spent since he became PM and where did that all come from?

[Toodles McGinty]

When there's a political will, the money will be found from somewhere - for example, how much has Johnson spent since he became PM and where did that all come from?

The Magic Money Tree.

Fat Al seems to have found an entire forest.

Although considering he's about to have the shortest tenure in history, he might as well be promising everybody in the country a billion pounds and a unicorn.