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    Without getting rid of the opponents in his own party to leaving we would never leave, he is doing the necessary house keeping.

    It would be a weak manager who kept the people knocking goals in for the other side.

    This paralysis of the country has to be mended.

    Boris is not hiding from the uncomfortable work, Theresa did and that's why were still in against the peoples wishes.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Now Amber Rudd has resigned from the Cabinet.

    This is priceless.

    She joined a cabinet that committed to leave on the 31st October how did she expect to do this if members of her own party vote against it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    She joined a cabinet that committed to leave on the 31st October how did she expect to do this if members of her own party vote against it ?
    She has stated very clearly that she has resigned over El Supremo Johnson's heavy handed methods, not over Brexit.

    Doing a fine job alienating everyone, present rate Tories will have to form a new party or very quickly appoint a new leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Recent article, was it? Because as far as I'm aware the White House is quite fond of Fat Al. A man made in Trump's own image. 'The British Trump', I believe he said.

    'Haemorrhaging confidence'? What confidence? The whole world thinks we are idiots led by a circus clown. Except a few populist demagogues.
    That is not what I am hearing. According to the USA they are behind Boris Johnson and against those who are rebelling against the majority of the British electorate. The Australians are more forthright as usual - how they refer to the remain group cannot be printed. The Hungarians are backing the UK, as are Poland. Italy are threatening to be the next to pull out, etc.,etc.,

    LONDON (Reuters) - The United States would enthusiastically support a no-deal Brexit if that is what the British government decided to do, U.S. national security adviser John Bolton said on Monday during a visit to London aimed at reassuring Britain over UK-U.S. ties.

    The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says a no-deal Brexit ‘need not mean chaos’, as it will see the UK trading on World Trade Organisation rules, as Australia does.

    Hungary and Poland in agreement on the V4, immigration, security, Brexit and the economy. Sep 25 ... Britain has Hungary's support during Brexit negotiations.

    "I think Italy should leave the European Union as well. I support Brexit, and I think [the UK] did well by keeping out of the Eurozone. We should look after our own borders and our own affairs. View from Italy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    That is not what I am hearing. According to the USA they are behind Boris Johnson and against those who are rebelling against the majority of the British electorate. The Australians are more forthright as usual - how they refer to the remain group cannot be printed. The Hungarians are backing the UK, as are Poland. Italy are threatening to be the next to pull out, etc.,etc.,

    LONDON (Reuters) - The United States would enthusiastically support a no-deal Brexit if that is what the British government decided to do, U.S. national security adviser John Bolton said on Monday during a visit to London aimed at reassuring Britain over UK-U.S. ties.

    The Australian’s Foreign Editor Greg Sheridan says a no-deal Brexit ‘need not mean chaos’, as it will see the UK trading on World Trade Organisation rules, as Australia does.

    Hungary and Poland in agreement on the V4, immigration, security, Brexit and the economy. Sep 25 ... Britain has Hungary's support during Brexit negotiations.

    "I think Italy should leave the European Union as well. I support Brexit, and I think [the UK] did well by keeping out of the Eurozone. We should look after our own borders and our own affairs. View from Italy.

    'The Australians'? You mean the ardent Brexiteer editor of an Australian newspaper, not the Australian government. An editor who thinks leaving without a deal is a mistake?

    Comments from Kevin Rudd, former Australian PM:

    As for the rest, all hard right populists. Who aren't exactly chomping at the bit to leave the EU.

    What are you going to copy & paste next? Statements from bears saying they crap in the woods? Quotes from Popes declaring they are Catholic?

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    Yet another government minister resigns , your doing a great Job Boris . Go now you buffoon.
    REST IN PEACE THE 96.
    Y.N.W.A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grassroots View Post
    Yet another government minister resigns , your doing a great Job Boris . Go now you buffoon.

    Not yet! He has to finish what he started doing.

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    Yeah, he's doing a blinder of a job..

    Well 'the blind leading the blind is what I would have said.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by libraryguy View Post
    Well..... I think that's Checkmate for the Remainers!

    Excellent
    It's looking more like game over for Johnson.

    So far, the opposition doesn't trust him, parliament doesn't trust him, his own party doesn't trust him and his own family doesn't trust him.

    Excellent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    I've said before, I don't think the genius architects of Brexit, Farage, Gove, Cummings etc, had a single thought about the EU border in Ireland.

    Given that the Leave contingent on here insist that Brexit has been at the forefront of their efforts for decades, and that every single one of them knew exactly what they were voting for, you'd think that just one of them would have considered the ramifications of a hard border. Or a way around it.

    Or the impossibility of trade deals if we break the Good Friday Agreement.

    As a wavering voter at the referendum, I didn't consider the border for a second. It was conveniently never mentioned. By either side. Perhaps had the Remain campaign have made an effort to actually investigate anything further than 'tariffs', then just sat back and expected to win anyway, a lot more information would have been made available to the electorate.

    While the Leave side were guilty of lies and more lies, the Remain side were apathetic to the point of hardly bothering. Led by the third worst PM in our history. Small wonder we're in chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    I've said before, I don't think the genius architects of Brexit, Farage, Gove, Cummings etc, had a single thought about the EU border in Ireland.

    Given that the Leave contingent on here insist that Brexit has been at the forefront of their efforts for decades, and that every single one of them knew exactly what they were voting for, you'd think that just one of them would have considered the ramifications of a hard border. Or a way around it.

    Or the impossibility of trade deals if we break the Good Friday Agreement.

    As a wavering voter at the referendum, I didn't consider the border for a second. It was conveniently never mentioned. By either side. Perhaps had the Remain campaign have made an effort to actually investigate anything further than 'tariffs', then just sat back and expected to win anyway, a lot more information would have been made available to the electorate.

    While the Leave side were guilty of lies and more lies, the Remain side were apathetic to the point of hardly bothering. Led by the third worst PM in our history. Small wonder we're in chaos.


    It was discussed at length by Blair and Major giving a joint presentation at the University of Ulster and was reported in the media here.


    It was pointed out that NI and Southern Island already have differing regimes and it is managed without a so called "hard border" no one is even suggesting one is built.

    Differing tax, VAT, currency, excise and security are currently managed with technical and administrative procedures without infrastructure at the physical border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I

    Differing tax, VAT, currency, excise and security are currently managed with technical and administrative procedures without infrastructure at the physical border.

    That's because we are currently both in the EU. Just the same with any other country in the EU.

    Juncker, just hours ago:

    Speaking to Sky News, he warned ‘history will be back immediately’ if the Good Friday Agreement was not respected and accused unnamed MPs of ‘forgetting about the history’. He said checks would be enforced on goods coming into the Republic even if the UK does not put up a border on its side, although he denied any blame on the EU side for such a scenario. He added: ‘The EU is in no way responsible for any kind of consequences entailed by the Brexit.

    ‘That’s a British decision, a sovereign decision that we are respecting but don’t try to charge the EU with the responsibility. ‘The EU is not leaving the UK, the UK is leaving the EU.’ Mr Juncker continued: ‘We have to make sure that the interests of the European Union and of the internal market will be preserved. ‘An animal entering Northern Ireland without border control can enter the European Union without checks via the southern part of the Irish island. ‘This will not happen. We have to preserve the health and the safety of our citizens.’



    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/22/hard-...9/?ito=cbshare
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    The Leave vote, who went on at some length about 'controlling our borders' are now suddenly saying 'Oh no, not that border. Just the other borders'. Whether in or out, we have to abide by the EU rules on their borders.



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    So it's the EU who want to divide Ireland with a hard border

    Whether in or out, we have to abide by the EU rules on their borders,


    no they have to do the checks they want, its not up to us to enforce their rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    So it's the EU who want to divide Ireland with a hard border

    Whether in or out, we have to abide by the EU rules on their borders,


    no they have to do the checks they want, its not up to us to enforce their rules.
    No it's the UK that wants to alter things.

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