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  1. Published on: 29/08/2019 12:29 PMReported by: roving-eye
    Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage is bringing his battle with Boris Johnson to Southport. In a rally planned for Friday 13th September at the Floral Hall, Mr Farage will present his new parliamentary candidates and explain why he, rather than Boris Johnson, should be given the Brexit responsibility in Britain.





    Mr Farage supported a second referendum and, like Boris Johnson, he campaigned for Brexit in 2016 on the basis of it being automatic that any EU departure by Britain would involve a Norway-like 'deal'. Norway complies with all Single Market rules and pays into the EU but has no vote on any changes. Mr Farage says that Boris Johnson is not to be trusted over Brexit and now publicly backs a 'No Deal' departure from the EU.





    The Brexit Party leader has promised to leave politics several times but keeps coming back. He has stood for election to the UK Parliament on numerous occasions but so far only seems to be able to get elected at European Parliament Elections.
     






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  3. salus.populi says:29/08/2019 01:10 PM
    Friday 13th, how appropriate.
    Hope he's given a warm welcome. I'm happy to supply the matches.

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  5. Tonka69 says:29/08/2019 04:13 PM
    I will be going, This man talks a lot of sense and speaks for the majority. what was it 17.4 Million !!!

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  7. gnalist says:29/08/2019 04:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonka69 View Post
    I will be going, This man talks a lot of sense and speaks for the majority. what was it 17.4 Million !!!
    Given that the population of the UK is just over 66m, then nope, not even close to the majority... it was a majority of those who actually voted then (just) and they it seems were all voting on different forms of Brexit because they were told so many different version of what it would be - now it looks like a disastrous no deal variety, I doubt very much it would be anything like a majority for that in a new vote - which is why the No Dealers are now pulling every trick in the book to stop it from happening. Farage, like Boris, is a snakeoil salesman, you swallow it if you want - it's certainly no cure and is actually poisoning this country.

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  9. libraryguy says:29/08/2019 04:53 PM
    "Given that the population of the UK is just over 66m..."

    Excuse me, where the hell do you get your figures from? Yes the population on the UK is circa 66m but you cannot count those that are not eligible to vote as they are under 18. Also out of those 66m, there are people who have not registered to vote.

    Still... Remainer maths is always dodgy.

    However...

    Out of a 66m population, 17.4m voted to leave and 16.1m voted to Remain, so more people voted to Leave.

    Out of a total electorate of 46,500,001 as of June 2016

    37.4% Voted to Leave and 34.7% Voted to Remain and 27.7% chose not to cast their vote.

    Elections, if you hadn't noticed only count the people who voted, as it's the only way it can work. If you chose not to vote then I'm sorry that's your choice so don't moan after the event.

    Whichever way you look at it Leave had more votes than Remain.

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  11. Ceam says:29/08/2019 05:05 PM
    Yawn....

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  13. donkey22 says:29/08/2019 09:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by libraryguy View Post
    "Given that the population of the UK is just over 66m..."

    Excuse me, where the hell do you get your figures from? Yes the population on the UK is circa 66m but you cannot count those that are not eligible to vote as they are under 18. Also out of those 66m, there are people who have not registered to vote.

    Still... Remainer maths is always dodgy.

    However...

    Out of a 66m population, 17.4m voted to leave and 16.1m voted to Remain, so more people voted to Leave.

    Out of a total electorate of 46,500,001 as of June 2016

    37.4% Voted to Leave and 34.7% Voted to Remain and 27.7% chose not to cast their vote.

    Elections, if you hadn't noticed only count the people who voted, as it's the only way it can work. If you chose not to vote then I'm sorry that's your choice so don't moan after the event.

    Whichever way you look at it Leave had more votes than Remain.

    And what percentage of votes cast was to crash out of Europe with no deal in place?

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  15. gazaprop says:30/08/2019 06:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by gnalist View Post
    Given that the population of the UK is just over 66m, then nope, not even close to the majority... it was a majority of those who actually voted then (just) and they it seems were all voting on different forms of Brexit because they were told so many different version of what it would be - now it looks like a disastrous no deal variety, I doubt very much it would be anything like a majority for that in a new vote - which is why the No Dealers are now pulling every trick in the book to stop it from happening. Farage, like Boris, is a snakeoil salesman, you swallow it if you want - it's certainly no cure and is actually poisoning this country.
    Are you new here - to earth I mean?
    That's the way all of our elections work! I don't like it any more than many others do but that's the way our democracy works - a majority of those who can be bothered to vote carry the day.

    Incidentally I'll second Ceam's yawn and raise it another yawn.

  16. libraryguy says:30/08/2019 10:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    And what percentage of votes cast was to crash out of Europe with no deal in place?
    I voted to Leave. Deal or No Deal options weren't on the ballot paper. Ideally, we leave with a good deal, but if not I'm more than happy to crash out with No Deal, so I voted for both.

  17. abbeyroad says:30/08/2019 10:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    And what percentage of votes cast was to crash out of Europe with no deal in place?
    That question wasn't on the ballot paper, as you well know.

    For what it's worth, if it had been on the ballot paper I would have voted for it.

  18. bensherman says:30/08/2019 11:00 AM
    In the weeks before the 2016 vote, thinking he would lose, Farage said that such a momentous decision should be based on a decisive vote.
    Asked what the threshold for a "decisive vote " would be he actually said that (say) a 52-48 split would not be a decisive vote.
    Funnily enough.

  19. Little Londoner says:30/08/2019 11:17 PM
    Theresa said No Deal was better than a bad deal, then she let the EU make the deal which is as bad as you can get. We've been raped by a woman and a gang of foreigners.

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