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    Quote Originally Posted by duncet View Post
    I thought our grandparents fought against Europe oppression.
    I'm pretty sure we were fighting for and with most of Europe in WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncet View Post
    I thought our grandparents fought against Europe oppression.
    No, Britain fought on the same side as a lot of Europe. France, Poland, The Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Luxembourg. In fact, most of Europe was on our side in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncet View Post
    I thought our grandparents fought against Europe oppression.
    Most of Europe fought against NAZISM, you know that right wing dictatorship which was allowed to grow in Germany fed by blaming certain sections of the population as the cause of all the troubles, sound familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Very likely a group of pro-Putin activists/troublemakers, trying to hive off Eastern lands....Remember what happened in Ukraine.

    Media lies again! Check up on the 1994 and 2015 referendums in the Ukraine. Tell a completely different story to what you were given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Most of Europe fought against NAZISM, you know that right wing dictatorship which was allowed to grow in Germany fed by blaming certain sections of the population as the cause of all the troubles, sound familiar.

    Are you saying that the arguments taking place in the UK are going to make Germany into a Nazi state again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    No, Britain fought on the same side as a lot of Europe. France, Poland, The Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia and Luxembourg. In fact, most of Europe was on our side in the end.
    Well, obviously one part of Europe was not on our side!

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Are you saying that the arguments taking place in the UK are going to make Germany into a Nazi state again?
    More likely to be the Nazis taking over in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A 'fact' that will be well-received by many Leave voters.....I.e. all those whose main reason for voting to leave, was because of perceived job-pinching by East European immigrants.

    So, with a clear end in sight to Eastern EU immigrants coming here, let's have a second referendum. Given that we'll have no future trouble from those migrants, I'm sure many leave voters will be happy to change their vote to one of Remain!


    STOP BREXIT!!

    Do you know - Immigration was one of the last reasons for coming out of the EU. There were so many other reasons which had priority.

    Did you know that Germany is now attempting to enlist the Balkan countries? I say Germany because they, after all, control the EU. Empires worked for comparatively short periods, when experienced war lords overcame nations, but they ended due to internal conflicts. In the present age, war is no longer the strategy, none of those seeking an Empire today have any such experience. It is down to subterfuge and confusion. Unfortunately, such leaders choose to ignore history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Empires worked for comparatively short periods, when experienced war lords overcame nations, but they ended due to internal conflicts.
    Oh I don't know, the Holy Roman Empire lasted for over 1,000 years. Germany, as you must know, was also part of the Holy Roman Empire until its dissolution in 1806.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Do you know - Immigration was one of the last reasons for coming out of the EU. There were so many other reasons which had priority.
    Odd that Farage and Cummings should concentrate on lies about millions of Turks coming here. Then producing posters showing thousands asylum seekers and refugees.

    Never made much of the economy. Or mentioned the Irish border. Although I doubt they even considered that particular problem.

    As I've said before, perhaps not all leave voters are racist, but I guarantee that all racists voted leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncet View Post
    I thought our grandparents fought against Europe oppression.
    Words fail me

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Do you know - Immigration was one of the last reasons for coming out of the EU. There were so many other reasons which had priority.

    Did you know that Germany is now attempting to enlist the Balkan countries? I say Germany because they, after all, control the EU. Empires worked for comparatively short periods, when experienced war lords overcame nations, but they ended due to internal conflicts. In the present age, war is no longer the strategy, none of those seeking an Empire today have any such experience. It is down to subterfuge and confusion. Unfortunately, such leaders choose to ignore history.
    Immigration, freedom of movement was very much part of the leave campaign, particularly in areas with a high proportion of EU workers, plus of course we had the " promised Turkish invasion" immigration barely counted
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    Quote Originally Posted by TownieChap View Post
    I'm in Nitra, Slovakia. I've been here for 5 days on business and I have learnt of something that is not being reported on any mainstream media platform... Slovakian people are protesting outside the Bratislavia Castle in their thousands to demand a referendum on leaving the EU.

    Slovexit... you read it here first! More on this as I hear it. I'm here for 3 more days.
    my inlaws are polish they also are fed up with the eu...they now have germany buying up every bit of land and business they can lay their hands on ....old polish business are being destroyed and families seperated,,,the polish priced out of buying homes....what germany could not achieve in ww11 they are doing so via the eu....

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    Quote Originally Posted by thediscovolante View Post
    my inlaws are polish they also are fed up with the eu...they now have germany buying up every bit of land and business they can lay their hands on ....old polish business are being destroyed and families seperated,,,the polish priced out of buying homes....what germany could not achieve in ww11 they are doing so via the eu....
    Yet Poland is quite happy to accept around 9 billion Euros from the EU budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    I'm pretty sure we were fighting for and with most of Europe in WW2.
    not really....the irish, vichy france, austria, spain, italy, portugal to name a few...not to mention holland that sent more of their own people to auchwitz than any other country for reward....the only ones on our side were nothern french, and the eastern block, remember britain had been at war with these counties for centuries and they dont really like us...

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