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Originally Posted by seivad
Yet Poland is quite happy to accept around 9 billion Euros from the EU budget.
no one will turn down free money...but thats our stupidity not theirs....poland has new motorways trainlines, trains stations, airports, infrastructure. etc....it makes britain look like a slum and stuck in the last century....if some idiot offered britain free billions we would also take it...
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Originally Posted by thediscovolante
my inlaws are polish they also are fed up with the eu...they now have germany buying up every bit of land and business they can lay their hands on ....old polish business are being destroyed and families seperated,,,the polish priced out of buying homes....what germany could not achieve in ww11 they are doing so via the eu....
Wow. Just wow. No words.
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Originally Posted by thediscovolante
my inlaws are polish they also are fed up with the eu...they now have germany buying up every bit of land and business they can lay their hands on ....old polish business are being destroyed and families seperated,,,the polish priced out of buying homes....what germany could not achieve in ww11 they are doing so via the eu....
Originally Posted by thediscovolante
poland has new motorways trainlines, trains stations, airports, infrastructure. etc....it makes britain look like a slum and stuck in the last century...
I can't tell if it's a terrible place to live, or a lovely place to live.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
Thousands you say. What's that as a percentage of the population?
Just under 5 1/2 million. - https://www.worldometers.info/world-...ia-population/
My business associate, a native Slovakian and also the wonderful family who run the hotel I been staying in both reliably inform me that that crowds over the weekend struck 120,000 at one point.
I am now departing for home on Europe's cheapest airline...
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Originally Posted by thediscovolante
not really....the irish, vichy france, austria, spain, italy, portugal to name a few...not to mention holland that sent more of their own people to auchwitz than any other country for reward....the only ones on our side were nothern french, and the eastern block, remember britain had been at war with these counties for centuries and they dont really like us...
Surprised you didn't include the Channel Islands in your list of occupied and subjucated countries, talk about fighting old wars.
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I can't tell if it's a terrible place to live, or a lovely place to live.
I think you could surmise it's a lovely place to live if you are local and can afford it or a German buying it up.
Poland wants its people back ;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46978961
The rest of the piece makes interesting reading
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Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty
I can't tell if it's a terrible place to live, or a lovely place to live.
That supports what a Polish guy told me. He said that his parents wish they were still in a dictatorship - it was far better than the EU!
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Originally Posted by local
I think you could surmise it's a lovely place to live if you are local and can afford it or a German buying it up.
Poland wants its people back ;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46978961
The rest of the piece makes interesting reading
The main areas of Poland are lovely. roads are cobbled often in fancy stone and they have maintained traditional buildings alongside some really tasteful modern places. Even in the middle of nowhere - road crossings are touch screen signalling with lights directing people on the roads, and sound signals for blind people. In the main areas there are no people hanging around, they all appear to be working and very busy. Canals and rivers are kept clean and tidy, shopping areas are full - yes, it does look better than the UK.
The Polish people work shorter hours and have longer holidays than the employed in the UK, and wages have risen in comparison to the living costs in Poland.
I also read the request for Polish people to return - but I also heard from the Polish community that those who have returned, have found it hard to get employment because of the number of immigrants who have come to Poland from the Ukraine! Ironic!
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Surprised you didn't include the Channel Islands in your list of occupied and subjucated countries, talk about fighting old wars.
Well, considering that the EU is now expanding to the Balkan countries - it would appear that Germany is seeking to go beck in time and re-establish an Empire. In the past - it may have worked for a few generations, but every one of them collapsed because each power hunter forgot the one major flaw to their ideals.
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Originally Posted by TownieChap
Just under 5 1/2 million. - https://www.worldometers.info/world-...ia-population/
My business associate, a native Slovakian and also the wonderful family who run the hotel I been staying in both reliably inform me that that crowds over the weekend struck 120,000 at one point.
I am now departing for home on Europe's cheapest airline...
Thanks for the update! Still nothing in national papers here! Perhaps they have just conveniently forgotten about it!
On that score - it really would not surprise me! I was absolutely shocked to find that some historical reports on the internet, have actually been altered! Not deleted - but physically altered on the historical facts to suit modern day doctrine! I kid you not!
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Originally Posted by TownieChap
I'm in Nitra, Slovakia. I've been here for 5 days on business and I have learnt of something that is not being reported on any mainstream media platform... Slovakian people are protesting outside the Bratislavia Castle in their thousands to demand a referendum on leaving the EU.
Slovexit... you read it here first! More on this as I hear it. I'm here for 3 more days.
Perhaps you should find out a bit more.
Every country has anti-EU elements. Just like it has flat-earthers.
Nowhere near a majority
Yet another myth perpetrated by Brexiteers that there are millions in every EU country desperate to leave. And that the EU has to "punish" us to deter them.
No there aren't and no they haven't.
Most Europeans are mystified by why we are leaving, irritated by our behaviour and pleased that the EU is protecting itself and its members.
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Originally Posted by said
Well, considering that the EU is now expanding to the Balkan countries - it would appear that Germany is seeking to go beck in time and re-establish an Empire. In the past - it may have worked for a few generations, but every one of them collapsed because each power hunter forgot the one major flaw to their ideals.
Germany wants to establish an empire? Why would they? What could they achieve? It's a 21st century country that gains massively from being in the EU.
If you were to say Russia, with Putin stuck in some Cold War dictatorship, wanting all the USSR states back, then I could believe it. Mainly because he does want that.
But because the EU anticipate the future membership of the Balkan states, it's empire building by Germany? How do you know that it isn't Turkey trying to rebuild the Ottoman Empire?
Oh yes, because it's patently absurd.
So this week's EU bashing consists of 'Germany wants its empire back' and 'The EU is terrible because the Polish PM invites Polish people to return because the UK is a laughing stock'.
Gone from clutching pearls to clutching straws.
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Originally Posted by said
I was absolutely shocked to find that some historical reports on the internet, have actually been altered! Not deleted - but physically altered on the historical facts to suit modern day doctrine! I kid you not!
Any evidence of this? Links?
Or another conspiracy theory?
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Originally Posted by said
The main areas of Poland are lovely. roads are cobbled often in fancy stone and they have maintained traditional buildings alongside some really tasteful modern places. Even in the middle of nowhere - road crossings are touch screen signalling with lights directing people on the roads, and sound signals for blind people. In the main areas there are no people hanging around, they all appear to be working and very busy. Canals and rivers are kept clean and tidy, shopping areas are full - yes, it does look better than the UK.
The Polish people work shorter hours and have longer holidays than the employed in the UK, and wages have risen in comparison to the living costs in Poland.
I also read the request for Polish people to return - but I also heard from the Polish community that those who have returned, have found it hard to get employment because of the number of immigrants who have come to Poland from the Ukraine! Ironic!
It is simply a consequence of free movement that communities break up, people have been used as unwitting pawns by the EU in their big business club.
Whilst we have benefited in the short term with Polish migrants it is at the expense of their country.
The stupidity of a system that has very well educated Polish people serving us coffee instead of building up their own country is evident and now their Prime Minister understandably pleads for them to return.
There has to be a better way.
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Originally Posted by local
The stupidity of a system that has very well educated Polish people serving us coffee instead of building up their own country is evident and now their Prime Minister understandably pleads for them to return.
There has to be a better way.
I agree - in its desire to create an empire, the EU created a complete economic imbalance between member states by admitting poor countries, resulting in mass migration, and you can't blame those who moved to places they perceived as lands of milk and honey. You only have to see things like 'Auf Wiedersehn Pet' to realise that British workers did it as well.
Whilst there were supposedly qualifying rules for admission to the EU, we all know that Greece submitted falsified information that was apparently never challenged.
Cyprus has the right idea - they just ignore the EU rules (e.g. against state-owned monopolies) that they don't like, but the EU keeps sending them money.
I still think that we should remain in the EU and work with other members to make it better and fairer, but I can understand why people voted to leave, albeit after being fed with lies by those fat cats who will profit from their private wealth no longer being subject to EU scrutiny.
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