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Originally Posted by silver fox
There is your problem, the donkeys aren't turned into race horses, they remain donkeys but with a totally overblown sense of their own importance and position.
It isn't my problem, that's for people who are insecure about Donkeys.
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Originally Posted by local
It isn't my problem, that's for people who are insecure about Donkeys.
Remember the comment made ref; British troops WW1 era, Lions lead by Donkeys, still applies in our class ridden country.
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The reality is that we are not led by Donkeys, to climb to the top of our societies greasy poles you have to be pretty clever at least.
If it was available to Donkeys we would all be there.
Many would love to think they missed out because they didn't have x or y as a child, went to the right school, lucky breaks, rich dad etc
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Originally Posted by local
I have never met a parent who was afraid more a case that they were prepared to pay twice for their child's education as they didn't like what the state had to offer.
The private sector is of course much harder to compete in and many of the schools have entrance exams.
The demands on the child and the parents are much higher.
Simply put if the school doesn't perform the parents vote with their wallets.
Close private schools by all means if that's what people vote for that's democracy in action but don't dumb them down push standards up.
What is it about what the state had to offer that they didn't like? The level playing field perhaps?
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Originally Posted by Polly Trott
What is it about what the state had to offer that they didn't like? The level playing field perhaps?
It isn't level for the children though is it.
In some areas committed staff and supportive parents in others lazy disinterested sloths in poor schools.
The parents choice removed, the children's futures blighted the private sector offers a choice to those parents who wish to pay.
For some its cost is insignificant for others it might mean one or two extra jobs to pay for it,
their not bad people they just put their child's education before New cars and Sky tv packages.
The state sector has had decades to improve itself and record investment until the Bankers passed us their gambling losses.
The Labour motion is all about their never ending class war where everything wrong is the fault of someone else.
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Originally Posted by local
The reality is that we are not led by Donkeys, to climb to the top of our societies greasy poles you have to be pretty clever at least.
If it was available to Donkeys we would all be there.
Many would love to think they missed out because they didn't have x or y as a child, went to the right school, lucky breaks, rich dad etc
Interesting how you class yourself
Actually, my first thought when reading this was ...
"Eee-yore, Eee-yore, he ought to know better than that!"
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Firefly (TV Series)
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Originally Posted by AdmiralAckbar
Interesting how you class yourself
Actually, my first thought when reading this was ...
"Eee-yore, Eee-yore, he ought to know better than that!"
Yes a great observation, I am not your leader well done Sherlock you have surpassed yourself.
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Originally Posted by local
Yes a great observation, I am not your leader well done Sherlock you have surpassed yourself.
Whatever suggested you were? Makes no sense, not the 1st time.
You do seem a bit obsessed with this Sherlock fella though - do you plan to change your username to Moriarty ?
"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Firefly (TV Series)
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Originally Posted by local
The Labour conference always throws up a few things and besides the Watson affair and odd Brexit Stance they have had a go at private schools.
Controversially, the party will also force universities to ensure that only 7 per cent of people they admit went to private schools - the same proportion as in the general population.
And property, land and other assets owned by private schools would be "redistributed democratically and fairly across the country's educational institutions".
Sounds very redolent of Mugabe's farm grab and we know what happened to them.
Among Labour MPs, some 17% went to private schools i(2015 figures) I assume they will be sacked as they got their positions through privilege.
Oh and a bloke called Corbyn, hmm methinks they haven't thought too hard about this ask Dianne.
Still at least people will know what their voting for.
Today's decision on the closure of Parliament may sound like a disaster to those trying to ensure the Democratic will of the people. However it could set a precedent to stop Corbyns Marxist land grab policies with schools or anything crazy he comes up with. He want be able to propose Marxist ideas then prorogue Parliament.
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Originally Posted by crocodile35
Today's decision on the closure of Parliament may sound like a disaster to those trying to ensure the Democratic will of the people. However it could set a precedent to stop Corbyns Marxist land grab policies with schools or anything crazy he comes up with. He want be able to propose Marxist ideas then prorogue Parliament.
Why do you think he's a Marxist? What particular pieces of Marxist doctrine do you think he follows? Or which statements or policies have made you conclude he is a Marxist?
I only ask because he states he's a Democratic Socialist. Which as I assume you know, is a different proposition altogether.
As for a 'Marxist land grab', I never actually heard him state that. Did you? I heard it was debated in Conference. I heard a statement regarding removing tax breaks from private schools. But I didn't hear Corbyn stating anything about taking land.
I might be wrong, it might pop up in the next Manifesto. Best wait and see.
Again, I might be wrong, but I thought proroguing Parliament stopped anything going through. How does anyone use prorogation to put something through Parliament, if Parliament isn't sitting? In the same way the Domestic Violence bill didn't get through because of the suspension.
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Originally Posted by local
It isn't level for the children though is it.
In some areas committed staff and supportive parents in others lazy disinterested sloths in poor schools.
The parents choice removed, the children's futures blighted the private sector offers a choice to those parents who wish to pay.
For some its cost is insignificant for others it might mean one or two extra jobs to pay for it,
their not bad people they just put their child's education before New cars and Sky tv packages.
The state sector has had decades to improve itself and record investment until the Bankers passed us their gambling losses.
The Labour motion is all about their never ending class war where everything wrong is the fault of someone else.
You know what isn't anybody else's fault? My son getting into Oxford from a comprehensive in special measures - and at least he'll know he got there on merit.
Loving the Sky subscription btw
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Originally Posted by crocodile35
Today's decision on the closure of Parliament may sound like a disaster to those trying to ensure the Democratic will of the people. However it could set a precedent to stop Corbyns Marxist land grab policies with schools or anything crazy he comes up with. He want be able to propose Marxist ideas then prorogue Parliament.
Tell me how do equate the democratic will of the people by taking the most anti-democratic action to impose just one way of leaving the EU.
Corbyn is undoubtedly a Socialist, but he is also a Democratic Socialist, not some petty jumped up wannabe dictator.
As far as I'm aware the action ever proposed ref; private schools, was to stop the cosy tax breaks they currently enjoy, most are somehow registered as charities on the grounds they provide the odd scholarship, frankly they are a business and should be regarded as such.
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Originally Posted by Polly Trott
You know what isn't anybody else's fault? My son getting into Oxford from a comprehensive in special measures - and at least he'll know he got there on merit.
Loving the Sky subscription btw
I must aside from the politics applaud your son and wish him the best of luck for the future, whatever anyone thinks about Oxford and how people get there it's hard work.
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