Are the DUP holding the UK to ransom ?

[*concerned*]

OK, so the DUP has 10 MP's, and to get 'a deal' through Parliament, the Conservatives need those 10 votes.

But, out of a population of approx. 1.3million in NI, the DUP had less than 300,000 votes, not forgetting NI voted to REMAIN (55% remain to 45% leave)

So, it would seem a lot of DUP voters are remainers, yet the DUP with their 10 votes in Parliament could prevent 'a deal' passing through!

[Normal]

OK, so the DUP has 10 MP's, and to get 'a deal' through Parliament, the Conservatives need those 10 votes.

But, out of a population of approx. 1.3million in NI, the DUP had less than 300,000 votes, not forgetting NI voted to REMAIN (55% remain to 45% leave)

So, it would seem a lot of DUP voters are remainers, yet the DUP with their 10 votes in Parliament could prevent 'a deal' passing through!

Since Boris lost his majority, the influence of the DUP is significantly reduced. There are likely to be rebels from all parties who will/will not vote for his deal.

I think its quiet possible they will either be bought off again with more billions, or he will ask the house to vote in favour of his deal, in the knowledge that their support is no longer the crucial support anymore.

[Lamparilla]

I agree with Normal - I think that the DUP will be chucked under the bus if Johnson sniffs his moment of glory.

A bit like his mate Trump betraying the Kurds, who weren't at Normandy don't you know. I don't recall many Americans being at Agincourt either.

[local]

The DUP have had their moment in the sun but as the dynamics change in Parliament so their influence changes.

If the dysfunctional one gets some sort of agreement it will be for Parliament as a whole to vote on or potentially go for a no deal exit.

[Alikado]

The DUP have had their moment in the sun but as the dynamics change in Parliament so their influence changes.

If the dysfunctional one gets some sort of agreement it will be for Parliament as a whole to vote on or potentially go for a no deal exit.

Reports in this mornings papers give the DUP as holding out one even saying they may hold out until the summer, Boris can not remotely consider a vote without them unless he gets either Lib Dems or Labour on board to to either vote for or abstain.

[Ceam]

Feels a bit like groundhog day doesn't it...?

[Toodles McGinty]

The DUP have had their moment in the sun but as the dynamics change in Parliament so their influence changes.

If the dysfunctional one gets some sort of agreement it will be for Parliament as a whole to vote on or potentially go for a no deal exit.

Agreed. I don't know if they've overplayed their hand, or they genuinely feel that Johnson's deal is a step too far where the separation of N. Ireland from the mainland is concerned. I'm sure another few billion might persuade them.

[justbecause]

Whatever Boris proposes, it’s always going to be a lose lose. It has become increasingly obvious that it’s impossible to appease all sides. Labour, the Lib Dums, and the SNP are never ever going to vote for anything Boris puts together, and the EU will never accept anything that looks like it might be acceptable to Parliament.
The British public are sick to the back teeth after three years of getting absolutely nowhere. The process has, and continues to cost the U.K. economy £billions and billions, money that could far better utilised by the NHS and education department.
Has the time not come where we should just put the whole sorry situation to bed by revoking Article 50, and get back to righting the wrongs in our Country?

[*concerned*]

Has the time not come where we should just put the whole sorry situation to bed by revoking Article 50, and get back to righting the wrongs in our Country?

Has the time not come where we should just put the whole sorry situation to bed by leaving the EU, going to WTO rules etc, and get back to righting the wrongs in our Country?

[seivad]

OK, so the DUP has 10 MP's, and to get 'a deal' through Parliament, the Conservatives need those 10 votes.

But, out of a population of approx. 1.3million in NI, the DUP had less than 300,000 votes, not forgetting NI voted to REMAIN (55% remain to 45% leave)

So, it would seem a lot of DUP voters are remainers, yet the DUP with their 10 votes in Parliament could prevent 'a deal' passing through!

The majority of unionists in N.I. voted to leave, 66% according to polls. 88% of nationalists voted remain. The vote was really split according to religion.

[Alikado]

Whatever Boris proposes, it’s always going to be a lose lose. It has become increasingly obvious that it’s impossible to appease all sides. Labour, the Lib Dums, and the SNP are never ever going to vote for anything Boris puts together, and the EU will never accept anything that looks like it might be acceptable to Parliament.
The British public are sick to the back teeth after three years of getting absolutely nowhere. The process has, and continues to cost the U.K. economy £billions and billions, money that could far better utilised by the NHS and education department.
Has the time not come where we should just put the whole sorry situation to bed by revoking Article 50, and get back to righting the wrongs in our Country?

The Tories missed the boat when they rejected May's deal 3 times when they had a majority, they only have themselves to blame, their own MP~'s in the ERG.

[seivad]

The Tories missed the boat when they rejected May's deal 3 times when they had a majority, they only have themselves to blame, their own MP~'s in the ERG.

I've not looked at the news yet, how does the ERG feel about the new deal?

From what I saw last night, some of the new deal solutions to the Irish problem sound a lot like proposals made by May's negotiators before the backstop came into play.

[Lamparilla]

This also makes the expulsion of the 21 tory MPs look like a bit of a gaffe. Probably Gollum's idea, wasn't it?

[Toodles McGinty]

According to a statement from the DUP, this new deal 'drives a coach and horses through the Good Friday Agreement'.

Can't see that getting through any Commons vote.

[seivad]

According to a statement from the DUP, this new deal 'drives a coach and horses through the Good Friday Agreement'.

Can't see that getting through any Commons vote.

How come Varadkar is happy with it?