Are we there yet ...

[dans77b]

You get your facts from where, mate? There have been no studies, no collaboration, no estimates made of the costs of Brexit! No-one knows how much it has cost! There are no facts to be had! One thing is absolutely sure though and that is that Brexit will cost the country far less than the 2008 financial crash! What you are reading from the media is the usual scaremongering that everyone has come to accept - apart from you. It is based on gross assumptions and misleading information - and unless you have a crystal ball that can really define what the future holds - you are done!

Similarly, the Royal family drama in the media - everyone takes that as fact! What? Since when have the media been allowed into the Palace to take notes on personal conversations? Yet that is what they are publishing and making people believe!

There will be no bed of roses after Brexit - no-one expects short term miracles. But the long term is what we are aiming for and the legacy that we will leave for future generations. That is where the value lies!

How are you Brexiters getting on with the 40 trade deals which will be ready to go the day we leave?

[said]

Sure, but a rejoin will be on EU terms rather than the terms we currently have, I know at least one poster on here who would be really hacked off if we then had to become party to Schengen.

That is only a part of it! The UK will also be obliged to change its currency to the dubious Euro, The UK will also lose the rebate that Thatcher organised, the costs of membership into the EU increases annually - it will be much higher. The UK will become part of the corruption that lies within the EU, and the UK will also be expected to help bail out the present struggling members in addition to the new members who will be receivers rather than givers. The UK will also become more embroiled in the Middle East civil wars.

[said]

How are you Brexiters getting on with the 40 trade deals which will be ready to go the day we leave?

I have no knowledge what the Government is doing, only those in Westminster would - but I have been trading with countries all over the world without any problems. Any trade deal arranged would occur much faster than they do in the EU because the UK would only have to make its own decisions, not wait for permission from 27 other countries. Hell - how on earth did the UK manage for eleven thousand years before the EU?

[dans77b]

I have no knowledge what the Government is doing, only those in Westminster would - but I have been trading with countries all over the world without any problems. Any trade deal arranged would occur much faster than they do in the EU because the UK would only have to make its own decisions, not wait for permission from 27 other countries. Hell - how on earth did the UK manage for eleven thousand years before the EU?

Soooo.... its not going that well then?

[AdmiralAckbar]

sooooo .... are we there yet?

I'm sure something is supposed to be happening soon but all I've heard about is bells (or lack of them).

They could have at least arranged for us to have the day off or something !

This could well turn out to be the biggest hyped up anti-climax since the Millennium Bug ... although at least that problem was analysed, solutions devised, worked upon for many hours (I should know, I got lots of overtime in work on that project) and nearly all issues sorted before it became a problem on that specific date.

TBH this is probably more likely to be the reverse, with insufficient/inadequate analysis and solutions, it's going to be that date from when all the problems will start ... although (before the usual suspects jump in and start kicking off with their usual soundbites, insults and name calling) it's fair to say not everyone shares that opinion, just like some people think the world is flat.

I suppose we shall all have to wait and see ...

I think I'll become a Snake Oil salesman - there's certainly a market for it in the current climate.

... are we there yet ?

[AdmiralAckbar]

Yay ! Commemorative 50p's ... Yay !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51250753

Makes it all worthwhile ...

I personally just cannot wait for the rest of the promised good things (that the 52% have bought into) to happen - whatever they might be.



... are we there yet?

[Alikado]

I didn't buy into it and I'm not expecting any riches.

[local]

This is yet another thread for losers of the intellectual argument to voice their frustrations after their repeated failures.

They lied repeatedly during the campaign and have carried on afterwards spreading groundless scare stories.

It is sad that they haven't accepted the democratic outcome of a number of votes and their whining is redolent of the spurned ex who cannot believe that their partner can actually flourish without their drag.

We all know how liberating it is to rid ourselves of the people who bring only gloom, workplace clouds and their personal lack of ambition.

It is a shame more of them haven't gone to their EU heartland and given the rest of us a break.

Steady yourselves they haven't finished whining yet, their lives are too empty to move on.

[Desert Region]

This is yet another thread for losers of the intellectual argument to voice their frustrations after their repeated failures.

They lied repeatedly during the campaign and have carried on afterwards spreading groundless scare stories.

It is sad that they haven't accepted the democratic outcome of a number of votes and their whining is redolent of the spurned ex who cannot believe that their partner can actually flourish without their drag.

We all know how liberating it is to rid ourselves of the people who bring only gloom, workplace clouds and their personal lack of ambition.

It is a shame more of them haven't gone to their EU heartland and given the rest of us a break.

Steady yourselves they haven't finished whining yet, their lives are too empty to move on.

You just don't understand the Willl of The People .

[AdmiralAckbar]

This is yet another thread for losers of the intellectual argument to voice their frustrations after their repeated failures.

They lied repeatedly during the campaign and have carried on afterwards spreading groundless scare stories.

It is sad that they haven't accepted the democratic outcome of a number of votes and their whining is redolent of the spurned ex who cannot believe that their partner can actually flourish without their drag.

We all know how liberating it is to rid ourselves of the people who bring only gloom, workplace clouds and their personal lack of ambition.

It is a shame more of them haven't gone to their EU heartland and given the rest of us a break.

Steady yourselves they haven't finished whining yet, their lives are too empty to move on.

Lol ! You just can't help yourself can you ! Your post could easily read like a Daily Heil article.

People who don't agree with you are labelled losers, sad, whining people that you need to get rid of, at least the ones who haven't gone back already. Perhaps you need to revisit your venomous rhetoric.

I'm not calling you names. I'm not using any condescending or divisive rhetoric. I'm not being personal. I'm not saying we need to get rid of you, or that you should go somewhere else if you're not happy ...

I'm trying to move on, being positive, trying to showcase all the goodness that's on its way, embracing everything that Brexit has been promised to bring us, which is, in a nutshell ... errmm ...

... bells and 50p's, that's it, oh, blue passports as well, fantastic - can't wait to renew mine.

Oh, wait, forget the bells, and better not mention the £350 million on the bus ...

Still, there's all those tangible benefits we all get by leaving the EU, like errmm ...

and loads of problems in our lives will be solved by leaving the EU, like errmm ...

... but still, I'm confident that leaving the EU will improve all our lives, won't it?

You can see I'm struggling to see the benefits, so why don't you spend your energy trying to bolster my enthusiasm and tell me all about this brave new world, assuming that's not such a difficult task for you?

I just can't wait for Saturday morning.

... are we there yet?

[silver fox]

This is yet another thread for losers of the intellectual argument to voice their frustrations after their repeated failures.

They lied repeatedly during the campaign and have carried on afterwards spreading groundless scare stories.

It is sad that they haven't accepted the democratic outcome of a number of votes and their whining is redolent of the spurned ex who cannot believe that their partner can actually flourish without their drag.

We all know how liberating it is to rid ourselves of the people who bring only gloom, workplace clouds and their personal lack of ambition.

It is a shame more of them haven't gone to their EU heartland and given the rest of us a break.

Steady yourselves they haven't finished whining yet, their lives are too empty to move on.

Easy on the lies, many feel the biggest and most prolific liars were most certainly the front Brexiteers, don't know where you get your intellectual argument from, in reality the whole damn thing has been the most devisive, destructive amd disruptive exercise in modern times.

As far as accepting the fact we have no options, that doesn't mean we have to like or agree with it, making possibly the biggest change to affect our country since WW2 with Johnson and the rabid right wing in charge, doesn't fill me with any great feelings at all.

Time will tell as to what was the best road to take, but until then I will keep my opinions and would hope that the strange triumphalism from Brexiteers doesn't rear up and bite us all on the backside

[Hamble]

Yay ! Commemorative 50p's ... Yay !

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51250753

Makes it all worthwhile ...

I personally just cannot wait for the rest of the promised good things (that the 52% have bought into) to happen - whatever they might be.



... are we there yet?

Whatever Brexit brings it could not/would not be worse than a Corbyn government.

[Desert Region]

Whatever Brexit brings it could not/would not be worse than a Corbyn government.

Who?

Oh yeah, the guy who was one of the biggest Euro-sceptics of all and who inadvertently, from a combination of general incompetence and from his views about Jewish people, finally played a key role in delivering Brexit.

N.B. This is not to overlook the role that the unflinching Corbyn support system played in helping deliver Brexit: ie, Momentum.

And, of course, this is also not to overlook the role the Labour Party membership played in twice voting for Corbyn as "Leader". (And for his re-election win, Corbyn recorded a higher majority!)

Please - credit where credit's due, Hamble .

[Hamble]

Who?

Oh yeah, the guy who was one of the biggest Euro-sceptics of all and who inadvertently, from a combination of general incompetence and from his views about Jewish people, finally played a key role in delivering Brexit.

N.B. This is not to overlook the role that the unflinching Corbyn support system played in helping deliver Brexit: ie, Momentum.

And, of course, this is also not to overlook the role the Labour Party membership played in twice voting for Corbyn as "Leader". (And for his re-election win, Corbyn recorded a higher majority!)

Please - credit where credit's due, Hamble .

When you put it like that!

[silver fox]

Whatever Brexit brings it could not/would not be worse than a Corbyn government.

That is very much a matter of opinion, not a particular Corbyn supporter, the fence sitting over Brexit and failure to counter the multiple lies from the right wing press and of course not dealing with the antisemitism allegations, did him and Labour no favours at all.

So by default we get Johnson and his collection of rabid right wingers, there was little choice, but the choice made inspires zero confidence in anything good, either for the country or the majority of people.

I can only hope that events prove me wrong, but I won't hold my breath.