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    Diesel and Petrol cars banned by 2040.

    Where will the government get the tax?
    Devil in disguise,





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    Quote Originally Posted by whiplash View Post
    Where will the government get the tax?
    Oh, rest assured, it will find a way.

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    Thumbs up Road charging — viable, constructive …

    Pay per mile travelled charge on most roads, for one. Why not?

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    Lpg

    LPG gas conversions for existing petrol cars, or is LPG also being phased out?
    On Yer Bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiplash View Post
    Where will the government get the tax?

    From the extremely high cost of batteries for electric/hydrogen cars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    From the extremely high cost of batteries for electric/hydrogen cars!
    Everyone focuses on increasing an electric cars range/reducing charging time. But manufacturers would be wise to offer models with option of smaller and therefore cheaper battery banks. This would make a car more affordable, appealing to people who never make anything but short trips from home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Everyone focuses on increasing an electric cars range/reducing charging time. But manufacturers would be wise to offer models with option of smaller and therefore cheaper battery banks. This would make a car more affordable, appealing to people who never make anything but short trips from home.
    Great, produce a car which can only make short trips, at the moment there are very few all electric cars which would get even to Liverpool and back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiplash View Post
    Where will the government get the tax?
    From the smart meters that have been putting in every ones house...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    Great, produce a car which can only make short trips, at the moment there are very few all electric cars which would get even to Liverpool and back.
    really? Maybe you should read some more up to date material.

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    You will be using Mobility scooters by 2040,instead of petrol and diesel powered vehicles,but I won't be using one,as I am 61 now,and that would make me 121 by that time,if I live that long.......
    Last edited by SteveandLois; 18/02/2020 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveandLois View Post
    You will be using Mobility scooters by 2040,instead of petrol and diesel powered vehicles,but I won't be using one,as I am 61 now,and that would make me 101 by that time,if I live that long.......
    New calculator needed I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Everyone focuses on increasing an electric cars range/reducing charging time. But manufacturers would be wise to offer models with option of smaller and therefore cheaper battery banks. This would make a car more affordable, appealing to people who never make anything but short trips from home.
    From the man who spends his life telling us not to use our cars for short journeys. Priceless!!

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    Our resident faux green hypocrite preaches green but lives the opposite from running old dirty diesel vans to destroying trees and wildlife to supporting the environmentally corrupt EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Our resident faux green hypocrite preaches green but lives the opposite from running old dirty diesel vans to destroying trees and wildlife to supporting the environmentally corrupt EU.
    Isn't it time for you to grow up? Or to act like a grown up? - If that's possible.
    Age is simply a matter of mind - age doesn't matter if you don't mind

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    Lightbulb …the future (of vehicle ownership and generally)

    Discussion on this and other threads about alternatives to internal combustion engines rarely gets beyond a presumption that current patterns of behaviour will persist — that individuals and households will continue to want to own their vehicles. I suspect that will not be the case for very many.

    The technology of more-or-less autonomous vehicles will continue to improve. The necessity of reducing GHG emissions quickly to zero will persist. These and other factors will alter the balance of cost /benefit for private vehicle ownership. Urban spaces will be changed; working and leisure patterns will have changed. Issues about cost of private vehicle ownership will become redundant. Instead, it will become a question of total cost of travelling to any given destination plus preferences regarding journey time, etc.

    Within urban areas, anticipate fleets of autonomous EVs operated commercially and available for hire — taxis, buses, trams, trains, e-bicycles and scooters. Over time just about everything will change. Failure to confront GHG emissions as well as other socio-economic challenges will add to the pressures for change.

    The future will be a different country!

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