Keir Starmer

[Alikado]

Can't find a Youtube link to put on here, but here's a Twitter link: https://twitter.com/Femi_Sorry/statu...39167973380103


Houchen isn't in the Cabinet.

Truss is atrocious. In the real world she couldn't get an office job. She's a remainer who has flipped to keep her job. She thinks we import 'too much cheese'. One of the 'Britannia Unchained' mob who thinks the British are the 'worst idlers in the world'. As always, you're opinion is as valid as any, but I wouldn't have chosen Truss.

Sunak is about the best of the bunch, as far as I can see. Not a high bar, but he does present as an actual politician. As far as the public is concerned, I'd say he's the one that makes Johnson most nervous.

Sunak does appear head and shoulders above the rest, he always appears to know what he's talking about and may be a future leader but ones Bojo will be most nervous about will be Rabb and of course Gove who would sell his mother and his children in the blink of an eye if he thought it would benefit him.

[gazaprop]

Last night the question was asked, on the News Quiz (Radio 4), as to why Boris enjoys so much support across the social spectrum?

One answer went thus - people see a man who can behave like a cad, has no discernible talent and isn't particularly good looking but, despite this, is wealthy, can do what the hell he wants with impunity and - leads the country - he's basically living the dream!

[Hamble]

Room Next Door:

How far she has come from 2014.

More comfortable in front of the camera which she keeps brief and concise.
Achievement wise for the prosperity of the UK excellent.

P.s
Ben Houchen won 73% of the vote in Tees Valley Mayor election.
Promising future ahead.

[Hamble]

Last night the question was asked, on the News Quiz (Radio 4), as to why Boris enjoys so much support across the social spectrum?

One answer went thus - people see a man who can behave like a cad, has no discernible talent and isn't particularly good looking but, despite this, is wealthy, can do what the hell he wants with impunity and - leads the country - he's basically living the dream!

Perfect being is not the main asset in politics.
Look at Theresa May.
One could not imagine her a glancing passing with breaking any rules of public outrage.
She was just too good a character.

[seivad]

Last night the question was asked, on the News Quiz (Radio 4), as to why Boris enjoys so much support across the social spectrum?

One answer went thus - people see a man who can behave like a cad, has no discernible talent and isn't particularly good looking but, despite this, is wealthy, can do what the hell he wants with impunity and - leads the country - he's basically living the dream!

All of the qualities that have traditionally been loathed by a considerable number of the population, both in politicians and the elite. It's a strange old world!

[Toodles McGinty]

Last night the question was asked, on the News Quiz (Radio 4), as to why Boris enjoys so much support across the social spectrum?

One answer went thus - people see a man who can behave like a cad, has no discernible talent and isn't particularly good looking but, despite this, is wealthy, can do what the hell he wants with impunity and - leads the country - he's basically living the dream!

Doesn't say much about the intelligence of the electorate though. Basically they are OK with a pathological liar, a corrupt criminal, a sexually incontinent hack. I think Hector had it right on another thread:

Labour has lost the plot. Meanwhile the Tories have morphed into being acceptable by the majority who feel threatened by minorities and have no interest in a greater good.

A majority threatened by minorities and no interest in the greater good. In other words, Brexit in a nutshell. Though I was amused by the general opinion that this was a 'good thing'.

There have been a few vox pops from Hartlepool this morning. One chap voted Conservative because 'there were no food banks when Labour was in power, now we've got nine'. And 'We've no courts, no police stations, and lack of hospital beds because of Labour'. As if 10 years of Tory rule didn't do that, one Labour MP with no control over funding was to blame. So they voted for a Cayman island habitant instead of a local Doctor who works in the the local hospital. Thick as pigshit.

I'm also gobsmacked by the 'plans' that Starmer has 'for the future'. Why TAF didn't he think he needed these 'plans' in the first place? 'Oh we don't need a plan yet, but if we lose a load of local councillors in England, we'll roll it out'? Astounding.

So we've an electorate who are fine with a Kakistocracy, an opposition who has 'plans' but doesn't implement them, and a criminal government.

I think we're in for a bumpy ride.

[Alikado]

Doesn't say much about the intelligence of the electorate though. Basically they are OK with a pathological liar, a corrupt criminal, a sexually incontinent hack. I think Hector had it right on another thread:



A majority threatened by minorities and no interest in the greater good. In other words, Brexit in a nutshell. Though I was amused by the general opinion that this was a 'good thing'.

There have been a few vox pops from Hartlepool this morning. One chap voted Conservative because 'there were no food banks when Labour was in power, now we've got nine'. And 'We've no courts, no police stations, and lack of hospital beds because of Labour'. As if 10 years of Tory rule didn't do that, one Labour MP with no control over funding was to blame. So they voted for a Cayman island habitant instead of a local Doctor who works in the the local hospital. Thick as pigshit.

I'm also gobsmacked by the 'plans' that Starmer has 'for the future'. Why TAF didn't he think he needed these 'plans' in the first place? 'Oh we don't need a plan yet, but if we lose a load of local councillors in England, we'll roll it out'? Astounding.

So we've an electorate who are fine with a Kakistocracy, an opposition who has 'plans' but doesn't implement them, and a criminal government.

I think we're in for a bumpy ride.

The people of Hartlepool are a little different, they did hang a monkey washed up from a wrecked ship believing it to be a French Spy.

[Toodles McGinty]

The people of Hartlepool are a little different, they did hang a monkey washed up from a wrecked ship believing it to be a French Spy.

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I think one of the greatest achievements of this government is persuading just enough voters, in the FPTP system, to vote against their own interests. Well, not so much this government, but the people behind the 'Leave' campaign.

On a positive note, the polling experts forecast Labour gains (to a 7 point difference) in the next general election. Along with major gains for smaller parties. More than enough if there was to be a coalition.

All assuming Starmer can be bothered letting us know about his Grand Plans, of course. Wondering if he'll bother with a manifesto. Just leave a series of clues instead.

[Alikado]

True

I think one of the greatest achievements of this government is persuading just enough voters, in the FPTP system, to vote against their own interests. Well, not so much this government, but the people behind the 'Leave' campaign.

On a positive note, the polling experts forecast Labour gains (to a 7 point difference) in the next general election. Along with major gains for smaller parties. More than enough if there was to be a coalition.

All assuming Starmer can be bothered letting us know about his Grand Plans, of course. Wondering if he'll bother with a manifesto. Just leave a series of clues instead.

The Leave Campaign were left an open goal even the most outlandish statements were not challenged so by default the public assumed they must be true. When catchy three word slogans are used they can often be interpreted in different ways usually to what the receiver wants to hear.

[Hamble]

The Leave Campaign were left an open goal even the most outlandish statements were not challenged so by default the public assumed they must be true. When catchy three word slogans are used they can often be interpreted in different ways usually to what the receiver wants to hear.

Brexit is not the disaster Remain lied to its supporters.

[Alikado]

Brexit is not the disaster Remain lied to its supporters.

The Brexit claims are unraveling, the Farmers aren't happy, The Truckers aren't happy, Industry isn't happy, and the Fishermen are far from being over the moon and on top of that the Unicorn I was promised still hasn't arrived.

[Desert Region]

The people of Hartlepool are a little different, they did hang a monkey washed up from a wrecked ship believing it to be a French Spy.

Are you suggesting that the people of Hartlepool are stupid and xenophobic based on a story / legend about something that may have happened in the early 19th century?

What an intriguing genetic take on things. Gene-based stereotyping and smearing?

If you are, then you're far from the only one providing that political analysis today.

[Alikado]

Are you suggesting that the people of Hartlepool are stupid and xenophobic based on a story / legend about something that may have happened in the early 19th century?

What an intriguing genetic take on things. Gene-based stereotyping and smearing?

If you are, then you're far from the only one providing that political analysis today.

Where does the genetics come from?

They have a statue of the monkey in the town, it is supposedly documented in the towns records.

[Desert Region]

Where does the genetics come from?

They have a statue of the monkey in the town, it is supposedly documented in the towns records.

If not a genetic connection, then what other connection were you making about the Hartlepool people of today based on a legend / story from the early 19th century?

Presumably, Hartlepudlians from the early 19th century aren't still alive today and didn't vote in the by-election the other day!

[gazaprop]

The people of Hartlepool are a little different, they did hang a monkey washed up from a wrecked ship believing it to be a French Spy.

Not sure about the spy issue but the Monkey probably was French and - you can't be too careful!