Back to school.

[Hamble]

You can take things out if context as much as you like, People can read the thread and make their own mind up what each of us said, and to what question.



Just to clarify my position..

*I don't want any more children to go back to school yet.

* we have lifted several isolation rules already, we need to wait a month to see if the affects of that are sustainable. From what I've see there are several very stupid people out there, so there could be a second spike in cases.

*The children that are of care workers etc are low in numbers, and I think it should stay that way for the protection of those children and teachers that are there already. This is not ideal, but a better solution than having grandparents looking after them.

I doubt many would be stupid or callous enough to post to me they hope I get Coronavirus and die.




1.Your children have not been invited to go back to school as you are neither a front line worker or have infant age children.

*Vulnerable and front line workers children in schools across the Country -how convenient for you to prefer them in school than with grandparents.
As if they all only have that alternative.

[rolling-thunder]

When it is safe for the big kids in Parliament to go back to normal then it will be safe for our kids to go back. I won't consider sending them back before September and that will be only if hygiene routines are practised. My kids are not petri dishes. If they get it, we their parents get it and I reckon I have a high chance of dying from complications from CV19. I'm not quite ready to give up on living yet.

[Toodles McGinty]

so its ok for supermarket workers, delivery drivers, hospital workers etc etc to continue working at their own risk ...but the precious union based teachers want to stay at home on their bums....im sorry they are shamefull....just get back to work or resign, the workers that have carried on for all of us have shamed teachers who are hiding..

I don't know how teachers get through a term without being off about 10 times considering the germs that kids carry around. Supermarket workers, delivery drivers etc all should have the option of wearing PPE. I doubt you could work in a classroom full of 5 year olds with PPE on.

I'd like to see those, who seem to have been brainwashed by the Daily Mail that teachers are some kind of cowards, do a stint unprotected as a classroom assistant. Get in there among all those bodily fluids flying around. Cuddle a sobbing, snotty kid that has had a fight or a fall.

The same government telling teachers to go to work seem pretty thin on the ground in the House of Commons. Are they all going to be crammed in there by June? Why are they telling people to work from home 'if they can'? Why is there still social distancing? Why all the warnings about public transport?

Lots of mixed messages. Lots of 'do as I say, not do as I do'.

[Ceam]

I doubt many would be stupid or callous enough to post to me they hope I get Coronavirus and die.




1.Your children have not been invited to go back to school as you are neither a front line worker or have infant age children.

*Vulnerable and front line workers children in schools across the Country -how convenient for you to prefer them in school than with grandparents.
As if they all only have that alternative.

Show me where a wrote that..

*Vulnerable and front line workers children in schools across the Country -how convenient for you to prefer them in school

None of this is "convenient" for anybody, me you or anyone. Not sure why you think I think it's "convenient".

As if they all only have that alternative.

What are the other amazing "alternatives" you have in mind?

[Ceam]

True-unless one qualifies it by adding"lets see what pans out".

That was referring to the restrictions that have ALREADY been lifted with people going back to work and being allowed to go out more. Nothing at all to do with the children going back to school.
You have an amazing ability to read things into what I've said.

[Ceam]

I don't know how teachers get through a term without being off about 10 times considering the germs that kids carry around. Supermarket workers, delivery drivers etc all should have the option of wearing PPE. I doubt you could work in a classroom full of 5 year olds with PPE on.

Well they are going to have a try at it I think. I've just supplied to local primary schools with full face shields.

[Toodles McGinty]

Well they are going to have a try at it I think. I've just supplied to local primary schools with full face shields.

That's madness. Half the kids will be frightened, half won't take a bit of notice what's being said through a muffled face shield.

I find it inconceivable that anyone, adult or child, should be forced into rooms where PPE is necessary. Especially little ones who will have no concept of social distancing.

[Hamble]

That was referring to the restrictions that have ALREADY been lifted with people going back to work and being allowed to go out more. Nothing at all to do with the children going back to school.
You have an amazing ability to read things into what I've said.

Quote Ceam
"2. No I'm not happy about it, but do you want all hospitals to close? It becomes the lesser of two evil compared to having the children going to grandparents etc.

There is no panic to get young children back to school on mass, using them as guinea pigs for the rest of the nation. We have lifted several social distancing measures already, Lets see how that pans out before we throw our kids and their families under a bus hey."


Still leaves the children already in school.

[Hamble]

Show me where a wrote that..



None of this is "convenient" for anybody, me you or anyone. Not sure why you think I think it's "convenient".



What are the other amazing "alternatives" you have in mind?

Quote Ceam
"*The children that are of care workers etc are low in numbers, and I think it should stay that way for the protection of those children and teachers that are there already. This is not ideal, but a better solution than having grandparents looking after them."

I don't need to come up with an alternative.
The system is voluntary and it is working.

[Ceam]

Quote Ceam
"2. No I'm not happy about it, but do you want all hospitals to close? It becomes the lesser of two evil compared to having the children going to grandparents etc.

There is no panic to get young children back to school on mass, using them as guinea pigs for the rest of the nation. We have lifted several social distancing measures already, Lets see how that pans out before we throw our kids and their families under a bus hey."


Still leaves the children already in school.

You are unreal.

[Ceam]

Quote Ceam
"*The children that are of care workers etc are low in numbers, and I think it should stay that way for the protection of those children and teachers that are there already. This is not ideal, but a better solution than having grandparents looking after them."

I don't need to come up with an alternative.
The system is voluntary and it is working.

And again,... unreal. You really should step away from the keyboard.


BTW still waiting for where u said you should die of covid, think you'll actually said if you're that keen on getting kids back to school, maybe you and like minded individuals should socialize together and see if you fall ill or die, rather than using children as guinea pigs.

Now read that very carefully before you bother replying again, because its very different from what you are implying I said.

[Hamble]

And again,... unreal. You really should step away from the keyboard.


BTW still waiting for where u said you should die of covid, think you'll actually said if you're that keen on getting kids back to school, maybe you and like minded individuals should socialize together and see if you fall ill or die, rather than using children as guinea pigs.

Now read that very carefully before you bother replying again, because its very different from what you are implying I said.

Cleaning it up a bit is cheating.

Quote Ceam
"You get your miserable *** in public along with others that think the same way as you. See if you drop dead before sending innocent children to the slaughter.

Believe me that is a very measured and clean version of what I want to say to you, you vile individual."

[Ceam]

Cleaning it up a bit is cheating.

Quote Ceam
"You get your miserable *** in public along with others that think the same way as you. See if you drop dead before sending innocent children to the slaughter.

Believe me that is a very measured and clean version of what I want to say to you, you vile individual."

Yeah, I'll stand by that, after you posted that I wanted to see others go back to school before I was going to allow mine back, So you can unclear that if you like. If you want things to go 'back to normal' you and others that think the same should be more than happy to see if it's safe to get together in large groups, rather than use young children.
Didn't say I wanted you or anyone else for that matter to die, Just rather those that want things to return to normal as if it's all over stand by what they believe.

I believe it's to soon for any large groups to be back together yet. As such don't think any extra children should be returning to school adding to the now 8 week old risk the children of essential workers are taking already at school.

Looks like we are having our risk assessment at Ainsdale beach, Formby pine woods being done for us today. Just don't be surprised if there is a spike in two to four weeks.

[Hamble]

Yeah, I'll stand by that, after you posted that I wanted to see others go back to school before I was going to allow mine back, So you can unclear that if you like. If you want things to go 'back to normal' you and others that think the same should be more than happy to see if it's safe to get together in large groups, rather than use young children.
Didn't say I wanted you or anyone else for that matter to die, Just rather those that want things to return to normal as if it's all over stand by what they believe.

I believe it's to soon for any large groups to be back together yet. As such don't think any extra children should be returning to school adding to the now 8 week old risk the children of essential workers are taking already at school.

Looks like we are having our risk assessment at Ainsdale beach, Formby pine woods being done for us today. Just don't be surprised if there is a spike in two to four weeks.

You know the only children in school are the vulnerable and front line workers having already stated
Quote Ceam
"*The children that are of care workers etc are low in numbers, and I think it should stay that way for the protection of those children and teachers that are there already. This is not ideal, but a better solution than having grandparents looking after them."

Your children are not infants and nowhere did I mention that age group in the conversation stop making things up.

You did actually say
Quote Ceam
"You get your miserable *** in public along with others that think the same way as you. See if you drop dead before sending innocent children to the slaughter.

Believe me that is a very measured and clean version of what I want to say to you, you vile individual."

[Ceam]

You know the only children in school are the vulnerable and front line workers having already stated
Quote Ceam
"*The children that are of care workers etc are low in numbers, and I think it should stay that way for the protection of those children and teachers that are there already. This is not ideal, but a better solution than having grandparents looking after them."

Your children are not infants and nowhere did I mention that age group in the conversation stop making things up.

You did actually say
Quote Ceam
"You get your miserable *** in public along with others that think the same way as you. See if you drop dead before sending innocent children to the slaughter.

Believe me that is a very measured and clean version of what I want to say to you, you vile individual."

Good god woman your like a dog with a bone.

You know the only children in school are the vulnerable and front line workers having already stated
Quote Ceam
"*The children that are of care workers etc are low in numbers, and I think it should stay that way for the protection of those children and teachers that are there already. This is not ideal, but a better solution than having grandparents looking after them."

Yes I do know that, I know of a couple. They are in VERY small groups. Still not a clue what you're point is here.
The children have been there for 8 weeks now, In small group so hopefully a low chance of catching this. They are children of key workers, So lets go through the options.

A. Nurses, doctors stop work to look after their children.
B. Children go to school in small groups under controlled conditions.
C. children go to their grandparents assuming they are retired and not working either.

Now according to what you posted their are other options. What are they? As when asked you have then gone on to say you don't have to give an option as it voluntary. Now I don't know about anyone else but that makes zero sense to me.

Your children are not infants and nowhere did I mention that age group in the conversation stop making things up.

Correct they are not. I don't see the relevance as I've never said they where. Secondly maybe you didn't mention the age group, Don't recall saying you did, maybe you can direct me to that section of this rather bizarre conversation.

You did actually say
Quote Ceam
"You get your miserable *** in public along with others that think the same way as you. See if you drop dead before sending innocent children to the slaughter.

Believe me that is a very measured and clean version of what I want to say to you, you vile individual."

Yes I did post that, Show me where it says I wanted you to die? It was in reply to you saying I wanted other children to return to school before mine. Which I did not say. Again show me where I said it. I've said all along that I believe it's to early to send them back, The restrictions we have lifted already need to Settle in to see what effect they have. Going off todays beaches they are not going to be very positive.
The comment was to say if you think it's safe for them to return to school, then maybe you should put yourself and those of a similar opinion in a similar environment as see how that works out for you e.g. a pub.