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    Khasoggi family 'forgive his killers'

    Reportedly the family of murdered Saudi journalist have on Twitter forgiven those who murdered him. Is it moral to forgive politically motivated -- and probably financially spurred on -- murderers? What does that teach us, and perhaps warn us, regarding how some people think?





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    They literally got away with the most grotesque murder and surely from the top. But USA still supports them. Money money money

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve View Post
    They literally got away with the most grotesque murder and surely from the top. But USA still supports them. Money money money
    Sadly, very true, Steve.

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    It wasn't murder it was an execution.

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    Interesting timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    Reportedly the family of murdered Saudi journalist have on Twitter forgiven those who murdered him. Is it moral to forgive politically motivated -- and probably financially spurred on -- murderers? What does that teach us, and perhaps warn us, regarding how some people think?
    morality about it is irelavent.its a spiritual decision,it teaches us that holding on to dark deeds and slights that have befallen our lives ,only shadow our future path.its not forgivness ,but letting go ,and leaving those that perpetrated those deeds to their balancing karma.else you merely extend the power of their actions to diminish your life as well.besides in this current time of dark that's taking place over us all every act of humble acceptance feeds the purity of the much needed light.

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    I seem to remember the family, especiay the son, coming under alot of pressure from The Saudi PTB to express forgiveness if they ever wanted to return to live in Saudi and live a threat free life elsewhere. Honestly, a government that can kill and dismember a person is capable of anything so I wouldn't bet the farm on the sincerity of any announcements coming from the family. If it was me I would say anything they wanted.

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    A level of scepticism is sensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    Reportedly the family of murdered Saudi journalist have on Twitter forgiven those who murdered him. Is it moral to forgive politically motivated -- and probably financially spurred on -- murderers? What does that teach us, and perhaps warn us, regarding how some people think?

    Personally I am sceptical over the whole issue. Why would a journalist, who is fully aware of the politics of the Saudi royal family, place himself at risk over such a relatively small issue?

    As has been published repeatedly in our national news - the Saudi's are too proud to forgive anyone who acts to oppose them, they always seek vengeance.

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    I assume they are living in fear of becoming victims of the bone saw themselves.

    Under those circumstances, I'd probably 'forgive' them publicly too.

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    Newcastle United look set to finally move on from owner Mike Ashley as their £300million takeover edges closer to completion.

    https://talksport.com/football/694908/newcastle-takeover-mohammad-bin-salman-amanda-staveley-mike-ashley-premier-league/

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    I had imagined that the the thread might've developed into a disussion of 'blood money' and the way religion is related to economic reality. I can just imagine Trump and even one of his apologists on the forum delving into this.

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    So many countries around the world have fallen at the feet of Saudi oil wealth us included.

    The Saudi's love England as we turn a well oiled blind eye to poor medieval activities and their suppression of women.

    Trump is at least honest over his arms deals with them "if we don't sell to them someone else will maybe Russia or China"

    The rather obvious truth is we live in a muddy sea of morality and trying to tip toe across it is fraught with problems.

    Some countries deal with it by simply walking on the other side of the road singing la la la and their fingers in their ears.

    They are the real apologists and embolders of tyrants everywhere.

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    According to Middle East Eye :

    'According to a report based on Emirati intelligence, seen by MEE, Saudi Arabia has sought to move beyond the Khashoggi scandal by offering "blood money" to the slain journalist's family in return for them forgoing the right of revenge or "qisas".'

    It seems that under Sharia law murder is not a 'hudud' crime punishable by death -- unlike a crime like apostasy, which threatens the religion (which is tantamount to threatening the state) but one which threatens the economic survival of families, who have lost a bread winner. Hence, the solution is to pay blood money to the family of the victim.
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    Thats whats so good about Sharia Law its moral consistency.

    An off hand Joke, a cartoon and out comes the death squads.

    Killing someone is clearly just a misdemeanour and warrants a convoluted fine.

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