Nissan To Stay In UK

[said]

Roll on Jan 1st 2021, when all our car imports from rest of EU will enjoy a 10% import price-hike......Any measure inhibiting new car sales has to be good news for the environment.

Do you honestly believe that car exporters to the UK would agree to a price hike and reduce the number of their sales? Particularly Germany which has been experiencing a down turn in sales.

[Alikado]

Do you honestly believe that car exporters to the UK would agree to a price hike and reduce the number of their sales? Particularly Germany which has been experiencing a down turn in sales.

They don't have a choice WT rules are what Bojo wants.

[seivad]

Do you honestly believe that car exporters to the UK would agree to a price hike and reduce the number of their sales? Particularly Germany which has been experiencing a down turn in sales.

Since 1974 you have been trading under the EU's Common External Tariff schedule. Come Jan.1, 2021, you will be trading as a single country under your own tariff schedule.

Exporters to the UK don't have a say on what tariff rate will be applied on UK imports. Tariff rates are decided by the UK government.The UK tariff schedule is then filed with the WTO. With the exception of countries you have a trade agreement with, the appropriate tariffs will be payable on product imports regardless of the country of origin. If you lower the rate for one WTO member, you have to lower it for all WTO members.

The 10% tariff on car imports aims to protect the British car industry. I believe there will also be tariffs on some agricultural products to protect British farmers. There may be others that I'm not aware of.

[The PNP]

The 10% tariff on car imports aims to protect the British car industry. I believe there will also be tariffs on some agricultural products to protect British farmers. There may be others that I'm not aware of.

And the EU will presumably be adding a percentage on the products we want to sell to them......Which inhibits demand for UK-made cars within the EU - in the past our biggest customer. There's going to be more manufacturing job losses here as a result.

[local]

[QUOTE=The PNP;6730508]And the EU will presumably be adding a percentage on the products we want to sell to them......Which inhibits demand for UK-made cars within the EU - in the past our biggest customer. There's going to be more manufacturing job losses here as a result. [/


More nonsense .

[grassroots]

Roll on Jan 2nd 2021 when all cyclists riding through red lights or on the pavement can be shot by the newly formed ACME Squad.

Armed Cycling Muppet Exterminators.

Yes and those who "Wheelie on chapel street.

[The PNP]

[QUOTE=local;6730510]

And the EU will presumably be adding a percentage on the products we want to sell to them......Which inhibits demand for UK-made cars within the EU - in the past our biggest customer. There's going to be more manufacturing job losses here as a result. [/


More nonsense .

You're saying the EU will allow non-EU made motor vehicles in at zero tariff? Now that really is nonsense!

[local]

Since 1974 you have been trading under the EU's Common External Tariff schedule. Come Jan.1, 2021, you will be trading as a single country under your own tariff schedule.

Exporters to the UK don't have a say on what tariff rate will be applied on UK imports. Tariff rates are decided by the UK government.The UK tariff schedule is then filed with the WTO. With the exception of countries you have a trade agreement with, the appropriate tariffs will be payable on product imports regardless of the country of origin. If you lower the rate for one WTO member, you have to lower it for all WTO members.

The 10% tariff on car imports aims to protect the British car industry. I believe there will also be tariffs on some agricultural products to protect British farmers. There may be others that I'm not aware of.

Isn't that the point of the fta article xxiv negotiations.

Despite the posturing of the EU negotiators their instruction is to get a deal .

[The PNP]

Isn't that the point of the fta article xxiv negotiations.

Despite the posturing of the EU negotiators their instruction is to get a deal .

If there is a deal struck in time (a commodity in ever-shorter supply) they'll never allow one as good as we had when a member....Which means imposing tariffs damaging to our trade - and further UK job losses.

[seivad]

And the EU will presumably be adding a percentage on the products we want to sell to them......Which inhibits demand for UK-made cars within the EU - in the past our biggest customer. There's going to be more manufacturing job losses here as a result.

Trading under WTO terms, member countries can't increase a tariff on one country's product alone. An increase/decrease for one means an increase/decrease for all.

If you leave without a deal, the EU would apply its Common External Tariff. Going from memory, I believe it's 25% on cars.

[seivad]

Isn't that the point of the fta article xxiv negotiations.

As final negotiations are unlikely to be concluded by the end of the year, under GATT Article XXIV a temporary (zero) tariff only FTA might well be possible.

Despite the posturing of the EU negotiators their instruction is to get a deal .

It's in the interests of both parties to get a deal.

[sandGroundZero]

There appears to be an understandable tendency to believe what we want to believe — the notorious confirmation bias. It's worth remembering

1. the terms of international trade are beleaguered; and
2. motor vehicle manufacturing is in a period of rapid change.

While President Trump's version of making America great is in the ascendant, the WTO rules are in abeyance. Rules that have been laboriously negotiated over decades may lapse altogether.

ICE (internal combustion engines) are becoming passé for well known reasons and EVs (electric vehicles) seem set to replace them. Notable features of EVs include far fewer moving parts — their manufacture and assembly are disrupting the industry.

Nissan's Sunderland facility has had totemic significance for UK governments since it was first negotiated; increasingly so, in the context of Brexit. It may be a long time before the many inducements offered are finally accounted for. It's premature to assert that Nissan's recent decision to retain Sunderland is a harbinger of the UK's future.

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[The PNP]

If you leave without a deal, the EU would apply its Common External Tariff. Going from memory, I believe it's 25% on cars.

Eek....25% on the price of our product would be a complete disaster for the UK motor industry. Project Brexit now looks more like Project C*ck-up!

[seivad]

Eek....25% on the price of our product would be a complete disaster for the UK motor industry. Project Brexit now looks more like Project C*ck-up!

If the deal isn't concluded, and a temporary zero tariff only FTA with the EU isn't possible, there's no other option than trading under WTO terms.

Some lawyers believe that, because negotiations won't have progressed far enough to qualify as an interim agreement under GATT Article XXIV, a temporary FTA won't be possible. Other lawyers believe that if the EU and the UK agree to continue with a zero tariff schedule, that will qualify them for a temporary FTA. I'm not a lawyer, so I can't make an informed opinion about either scenario.

It's a foregone conclusion that at some point in time there will be an EU/UK FTA.

[Toodles McGinty]

Where and when have I run the country down? certainly have questioned and criticised the actions of the government and of the way that multinationals and big corporations treat the country and workforce, bowing and kowtowing to any and anything which dribbles from Johnson's mouth is NOT supporting the country nor it's people.

I have most certainly NEVER criticised the NHS I do and will continue to comment when and where I feel the government have been and are deficient.

While your at it let me just tell about the latest total farcical decision from our brilliant government, you may or may not know what has happened with dentistry through the the restrictions, all dentists were closed, with initially a limited number of dentists who were able to provide the necessary protection, at the outset this was 10 dental practices only in the North West, since then that number has been increased to 30 practices, all offering emergency extractions only.

The dentists not working were asked to hand over their PPE in stock and on order to supply nursing homes, only the emergency dentists could get PPE, the aim was to as quickly as possible bring other dentists up to the required standard of practice and protection, bringing more dentists back on line and hopefully getting back to as near as normal mid July.

Totally out of the blue E-Mails went out to all dentists TELLING them to be up and running by mid June, bear in mind that many dentists have NO PPE having surrendered their stocks to others in need, there have been no guidelines, advisories, nor what is now regarded as standard practice, the brutal truth is many dentists have no chance of being ready to operate safely, plus there has been no indication of of how the extra costs will be met,

Lack of testing and procurement is not the fault of medical frontline staff, far from it and I know of no-one who has uttered a single word on the lines you suggest.

But of course in your little world NO-ONE must utter the slightest word of criticism as regards Johnson and his hand picked yes men.

The death rate is a stain on the government's handling of the epidemic, most certainly NOT the fault of those giving everything they can to tending the sick, in far too many cases even their lives, the death rate is not something to glorify nor use, every death is a member of someone's family and there have been far too many.

I don't know anyone who has criticised the NHS.

Criticising the government's handling of the situation is most certainly not criticising the NHS.

But when you're a cult member who cannot participate in critical thought, 8000 infections a day, 300+ deaths a day, is all good. We're opening schools at the same epidemic levels that put other European countries into lockdown. But lift the lockdown. Applaud your masters. Talk in Newspeak. Drink the Kool-Aid. The EU needs us more than we need the EU. Repeat the mantra.

More brain dead than brainwashed.

I've been given two pieces of news this week from a friend and from a family member. Not internet gossip, not Chinese whispers. One is that funeral directors are telling staff not to take time off from mid-July. The second is some people been taken off furlough as they have been contracted to build morgues to accommodate 40,000 bodies. Of course, you can take heed or you can dismiss that as bull. I don't care either way. But I would ask, even cult members who believe that Johnson is God and this government has been heaven sent, ignore the lifting of the lockdown where possible, listen to the alternative SAGE scientists, and please stay safe. This isn't over by a long, long way.