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  1. Published on: 04/06/2020 07:20 AMReported by: rogerblaxall
    This is the poignant tribute to a local cyclist killed on Tuesday night in a fatal RTA in Altcar.

    A single bunch of flowers has been placed on one of two police appeal boards placed at the site of the crash on the bend where Causeway Lane and Wood Lane meet.

    The road was closed for around five hours after the man - believed to be from Formby and riding downhill - was hit by a Transit tipper. Yellow chalk markings show the position of the truck while police tape can just be seen on the Formby bound side of the road.

    Recent fine weather has seen a significant rise in cyclists in and around west Lancashire - QLocal's Roger Blaxall saw four men on the same stretch of road at three o'clock yesterday afternoon as he took these photos; none of them were wearing helmets…

    Police are hoping to release the name of the dead man today; there has been no news on charges for the Transit driver involved in the incident.

    Original QLocal report: https://www.qlocal.co.uk/southport/news_list/Appeal_following_fatal_collision_in_Altcar-55045869.htm

    Last year 'Kill your speed not a cyclist' posters appeared on lampposts around the area - a timely reminder to all drivers and bikers.
         

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  4. dans77b says:04/06/2020 11:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by rogerblaxall View Post
    - QLocal's Roger Blaxall saw four men on the same stretch of road at three o'clock yesterday afternoon as he took these photos; none of them were wearing helmets…

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    What has this got to do with anything? Absolutely disgusting victim blaming, you call this journalism?

  5. donkey22 says:04/06/2020 02:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dans77b View Post
    What has this got to do with anything? Absolutely disgusting victim blaming, you call this journalism?
    Probably done to stir up the anti-bike morons that frequent this site and cause a bit of trouble.

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  7. Ceam says:04/06/2020 03:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dans77b View Post
    What has this got to do with anything? Absolutely disgusting victim blaming, you call this journalism?
    Agreed, rogerblaxall you are an embracement to your so called profession.

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  9. dans77b says:04/06/2020 04:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceam View Post
    Agreed, rogerblaxall you are an embracement to your so called profession.
    I just assumed this Roger Blaxall character was basically just a nosey neighbour who used this site as an outlet for his gossip, but I searched his name in Google and it seems he actually calls himself a journalist.

    Is this really the best Southport can do?

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  11. local says:04/06/2020 06:01 PM
    As a cyclist who wants more children to take up the healthy exercise of bike riding any encouragement to make it safer particularly helmet wearing is welcome from me.

    I wish more adults would have the common sense to wear a helmet and show good example to youngsters.

    Nothing discourages cycling more than deaths and head injuries.

    https://www.headway.org.uk/news-and-.../cycle-safety/

  12. dans77b says:04/06/2020 06:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    As a cyclist who wants more children to take up the healthy exercise of bike riding any encouragement to make it safer particularly helmet wearing is welcome from me.

    I wish more adults would have the common sense to wear a helmet and show good example to youngsters.

    Nothing discourages cycling more than deaths and head injuries.

    https://www.headway.org.uk/news-and-.../cycle-safety/
    This poor man didn't fall off his bike on his own, he was plowed into by over 2 tonnes of steel and glass.

    Yet this article did absolutely nothing to suggest the van driver could have taken actions to avoid this tragedy, in fact no mention of a van driver is made at all, you would think this driverless van took to the roads by itself!

    This excuse for a journalist knows next to nothing about the incident, and doesn't even know if the poor man involved was wearing a helmet or not.

    Helmets are a last line of defence, if a helmet saves your life, something has already gone horribly wrong.

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  14. Sap33 says:04/06/2020 09:25 PM
    Blaaxhall seems to believe his own hype!

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen an article he’s written that doesn’t feature his comment of ‘Q local’s Roger Blaxhall’.

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  16. justbecause says:04/06/2020 09:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dans77b View Post
    This poor man didn't fall off his bike on his own, he was plowed into by over 2 tonnes of steel and glass.

    Yet this article did absolutely nothing to suggest the van driver could have taken actions to avoid this tragedy, in fact no mention of a van driver is made at all, you would think this driverless van took to the roads by itself!

    This excuse for a journalist knows next to nothing about the incident, and doesn't even know if the poor man involved was wearing a helmet or not.

    Helmets are a last line of defence, if a helmet saves your life, something has already gone horribly wrong.
    From your first paragraph, I must assume that you witnessed this incident first hand.

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  18. local says:04/06/2020 09:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dans77b View Post
    This poor man didn't fall off his bike on his own, he was plowed into by over 2 tonnes of steel and glass.

    Yet this article did absolutely nothing to suggest the van driver could have taken actions to avoid this tragedy, in fact no mention of a van driver is made at all, you would think this driverless van took to the roads by itself!

    This excuse for a journalist knows next to nothing about the incident, and doesn't even know if the poor man involved was wearing a helmet or not.

    Helmets are a last line of defence, if a helmet saves your life, something has already gone horribly wrong.


    You don't seem to care about encouraging cycling or making it safer for everyone.

    My post was not about the particular accident.

    Trite comments about helmets saving your life only if something has gone wrong goes completely against the reality;


    Use your head - use a helmet'
    Sadly, we know how easy it can be to sustain a life-changing brain injury as a result of a cycling accident. Many Headway service users sustained their injuries as a result of cycling accidents. Some were experienced riders, others novices. Young or old, on a busy main road or a quiet countryside lane, the reality is that an accident can happen to anyone at any time.



    From the link I provided, Headway picks up the pieces you seem happy to make.

  19. dans77b says:04/06/2020 10:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    From your first paragraph, I must assume that you witnessed this incident first hand.
    Unless the article was wrong about a Transit Tipper being involved then nothing I wrote was incorrect.

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  21. dans77b says:04/06/2020 10:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    You don't seem to care about encouraging cycling or making it safer for everyone.

    My post was not about the particular accident.

    Trite comments about helmets saving your life only if something has gone wrong goes completely against the reality;


    Use your head - use a helmet'
    Sadly, we know how easy it can be to sustain a life-changing brain injury as a result of a cycling accident. Many Headway service users sustained their injuries as a result of cycling accidents. Some were experienced riders, others novices. Young or old, on a busy main road or a quiet countryside lane, the reality is that an accident can happen to anyone at any time.



    From the link I provided, Headway picks up the pieces you seem happy to make.
    My point is that even a halfway mediocre A level journalism student would not have included that spiteful little reference to crash helmets.

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  23. local says:05/06/2020 08:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by dans77b View Post
    My point is that even a halfway mediocre A level journalism student would not have included that spiteful little reference to crash helmets.

    Anything that highlights cycling in a safer sensible way does not need admonishing.

    My post particularly avoided attributing blame as I didn't see the incident, did you ?

    Why you wouldn't support safer cycling is beyond me, even if you want to take a self insured risk why encourage others ?

  24. gazaprop says:05/06/2020 02:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by dans77b View Post
    My point is that even a halfway mediocre A level journalism student would not have included that spiteful little reference to crash helmets.
    I agree with you on the journalistic standard however, I'm not convinced spite was at tbe root of how his comments were perceived.
    The blame for that lies squarely at his seeming inability to string words together using a degree of common sense.

  25. said says:05/06/2020 06:12 PM
    A very tragic accident - so very sad, may the cyclist Rest In Peace and God be with him.

    A lovely smooth, picturesque road to ride on - an attraction to many cyclists. For those who made comments about cycle helmets, this is a very controversial topic among many riders.

    "Theultimate way to make cycling safe is to promote a culture of cycling,not bike helmet use. Helmet use is very uncommon in bike-friendlycities like Copenhagen and Amsterdam, where cyclists have beensocialized to see cycling as a safe activity and where there is theinfrastructure to support it. In order to promote the same culturehere, we need to encourage people who don't bike that they shouldgive it a try. If my biking without a helmet can help with that, thengreat. Especially since it's not conclusive that cycling with ahelmet reduces your chance of getting injured."

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