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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    The food needs to be in bellies, do you have a better idea?
    I believe the children with fec..kless parents will slide under the radar and not get to school.
    There is also the issue of children in different schools.

    You can buy nutritious meals cheaply, opening a school to provide just a few of their children with meals is clearly an inefficient form of provision.

    We need to access the parents and get them into "school" and find out the problem as clearly some manage and others don't.

    Be under no illusion I believe benefit levels for SOME are pitifully low but this time is not likely to be one where they will rise significantly.





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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I believe the children with fec..kless parents will slide under the radar and not get to school.
    There is also the issue of children in different schools.

    You can buy nutritious meals cheaply, opening a school to provide just a few of their children with meals is clearly an inefficient form of provision.

    We need to access the parents and get them into "school" and find out the problem as clearly some manage and others don't.

    Be under no illusion I believe benefit levels for SOME are pitifully low but this time is not likely to be one where they will rise significantly.
    There is the one big problem, there are children with poor parents and children with “poor” parents, sorting one group from the other is difficult to say the least, but somehow we must see that children don’t suffer.

    Whatever the reason for food poverty, it isn’t the child at fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    There is the one big problem, there are children with poor parents and children with “poor” parents, sorting one group from the other is difficult to say the least, but somehow we must see that children don’t suffer.

    Whatever the reason for food poverty, it isn’t the child at fault.
    As any teacher will tell you many children fall off the radar during the holidays and they certainly did during the lockdown relying on the "poor" parents to get them into school is bordering on reckless.

    Unfortunately, some kids get lumbered with "poor" parents.

    That is not an issue to be solved by schools they are there to educate.

    The buck stops with the parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Labour promised to fund free school meals for all primary school children in their election manifesto.

    If we had a Labour Gov now would they still agree to paying for school holiday meals bearing in mind the costed amount of £950 million(in term time)?
    I don't know. Do you know? What do you think Labour would do to feed starving schoolchildren in the middle of a pandemic? Given they put forward a motion about it last week, you have to assume they'd feed them, don't you think?

    Do you know what the Lib-Dem plan was for free school meals? The Greens?

    What on earth do any of the opposition parties have to do with feeding schoolkids? They are there to scrutinise the government when necessary, or support them when they agree, aren't they?

    Same reaction, every time, whatabout Labour. Party before country. Even party before feeding hungry kids. In the worst public health crisis we've ever faced.

    Not even surprised any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Do you know what the Lib-Dem plan was for free school meals? The Greens?
    That's a bit extreme, isn't it?

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    The Lib Dums are on the WWF critically endangered species list after their anti-democracy manifesto which completely misread the wishes of the nation.

    The Greens similarly let a minorities wishes overun their raison d'être.

    They don't need policies more oxygen until they come to their senses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I believe the children with fec..kless parents will slide under the radar and not get to school.
    There is also the issue of children in different schools.

    You can buy nutritious meals cheaply, opening a school to provide just a few of their children with meals is clearly an inefficient form of provision.

    We need to access the parents and get them into "school" and find out the problem as clearly some manage and others don't.

    Be under no illusion I believe benefit levels for SOME are pitifully low but this time is not likely to be one where they will rise significantly.

    The Government announced earlier in the year that there will be life style changes after this Covid thing. Not only in work and learning - but also in personal goals. This has already begun. Where a certain protest group were attempting to change historic values and which in the past may have had some success, it has been firmly rejected. Where certain voters have demanded greater sympathy taking advantage of current politics, which in the past meant giving them more money - they have been firmly told if you want more, earn more. Perhaps at long last, we are reverting to rational thinking again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I believe the children with fec..kless parents will slide under the radar and not get to school.
    There is also the issue of children in different schools.

    You can buy nutritious meals cheaply, opening a school to provide just a few of their children with meals is clearly an inefficient form of provision.

    We need to access the parents and get them into "school" and find out the problem as clearly some manage and others don't.

    Be under no illusion I believe benefit levels for SOME are pitifully low but this time is not likely to be one where they will rise significantly.
    It is not a case of opening schools, most of the schemes are administered with the use of vouchers, also many schools are open during holidays as clubs are often run, premises rented out and maintenance works being carried out.
    There are many reasons why some can manage and others not. Some have highly different fuel costs, the charges for prepayment meters and meters from landlords can be significantly higher than other tariffs as can landlords service charges. Childcare costs which need to be paid to enable work be undertaken can vary significantly as do transport costs which can be significant, the Government mantra of it always better to be in work rings a bit hollow when you end up with just a couple of quid at the end of the week. Moves to monthly payments may seem a good move to help budgeting but being without for one day at the end of the week most weeks would seem to be alot more attractive than being without for 4 or 5 days at the end of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    The Government announced earlier in the year that there will be life style changes after this Covid thing. Not only in work and learning - but also in personal goals. This has already begun. Where a certain protest group were attempting to change historic values and which in the past may have had some success, it has been firmly rejected. Where certain voters have demanded greater sympathy taking advantage of current politics, which in the past meant giving them more money - they have been firmly told if you want more, earn more. Perhaps at long last, we are reverting to rational thinking again.
    No, they didn't.
    Nope.
    It hasn't.
    It hasn't.
    They haven't.
    We aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    No, they didn't.
    Nope.
    It hasn't.
    It hasn't.
    They haven't.
    We aren't.

    You said that Brexit would never happen too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    Does that include you, then?

    "The cult-like nature of the Brave New Normal that is COVID19 is insidiously pervading more and more aspects of our lives, with seemingly less and less science to back it up, and curiously being seen by those in power as an opportunity to reshape our society, not for our good, but for the good of those in power." Guardian


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    That would make the cost £300m per year, a drop in the ocean.
    The long term solution is to ensure those on benefits get adequately paid enough to feed the kids.
    Explain how you work that one out?

    Did you add £1 million more requests for free school meals this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    I don't know. Do you know? What do you think Labour would do to feed starving schoolchildren in the middle of a pandemic? Given they put forward a motion about it last week, you have to assume they'd feed them, don't you think?

    Do you know what the Lib-Dem plan was for free school meals? The Greens?

    What on earth do any of the opposition parties have to do with feeding schoolkids? They are there to scrutinise the government when necessary, or support them when they agree, aren't they?

    Same reaction, every time, whatabout Labour. Party before country. Even party before feeding hungry kids. In the worst public health crisis we've ever faced.


    Not even surprised any more.
    Had Labour got in parliament they would I trust have gone through with the promise of free school meals for all primary school children.

    Faced with the now pandemic the cost of providing holiday meals to all primary school children would be £950 million plus 1 million extra in need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Had Labour got in parliament they would I trust have gone through with the promise of free school meals for all primary school children.

    Faced with the now pandemic the cost of providing holiday meals to all primary school children would be £950 million plus 1 million extra in need.
    Small beer compared with what has been flushed down the toilet during the pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    "The cult-like nature of the Brave New Normal that is COVID19 is insidiously pervading more and more aspects of our lives, with seemingly less and less science to back it up, and curiously being seen by those in power as an opportunity to reshape our society, not for our good, but for the good of those in power." Guardian

    'Guardian' my a s s. Your C&P came from 'OffGuardian', a site that is home to a group of Russian trolls who have previously been banned from the Guardian's reader comments section.

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