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  1. #16
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    Nothing at all wrong with motor cycles it's the large percentage of brainless morons who ride them that are the problem.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    Nothing at all wrong with motor cycles it's the large percentage of brainless morons who ride them that are the problem.
    Nothing wrong?

    That depends on the motorbikes method of propulsion......Any responsible rider will be looking to move up to electric traction, in order to help reduce their personal carbon footprint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Nothing wrong?

    That depends on the motorbikes method of propulsion......Any responsible rider will be looking to move up to electric traction, in order to help reduce their personal carbon footprint.
    Equally, any responsible van driver will be looking to move up to electric traction. There again, it wouldn’t reduce your carbon footprint that much if you’re carrying smoky old wood burners around, would it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    A) Equally, any responsible van driver will be looking to move up to electric traction.

    B) There again, it wouldn’t reduce your carbon footprint that much if you’re carrying smoky old wood burners around, would it.
    A) There's nothing I'd like better for the business. We even looked at cost of replacing the 'fleet' (both works vehicles) with 'leccy ones a while ago, but the figures really don't stack up....In order to recoup their cost, our prices would have to rise massively, making us uncompetitive. It's just not a viable business model.

    B) Because the fuel is renewable (unlike gas, etc), a correctly fuelled and maintained woodstove is one of the best ways to reduce domestic greenhouse gas emissions.

    N.B. For personal transport, I do have an electric set of wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A) There's nothing I'd like better for the business. We even looked at cost of replacing the 'fleet' (both works vehicles) with 'leccy ones a while ago, but the figures really don't stack up....In order to recoup their cost, our prices would have to rise massively, making us uncompetitive. It's just not a viable business model.

    B) Because the fuel is renewable (unlike gas, etc), a correctly fuelled and maintained woodstove is one of the best ways to reduce domestic greenhouse gas emissions.

    N.B. For personal transport, I do have an electric set of wheels.

    So basically, everyone else should make the uneconomic change to electric vehicles.....except you. It’s no wonder so many posters on here deride your sheer stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    So basically, everyone else should make the uneconomic change to electric vehicles.....except you. It’s no wonder so many posters on here deride your sheer stupidity.
    How do you arrive at that 'stupid' conclusion?
    Like I said, I'm running on 'leccy, for personal transport.

    Business transport/viability is a completely separate issue. We're currently at £1,250 for a complete woodstove installation, which is a fantastic price considering it also includes installation of flue liner and tiling of inglenook.....That figure would have to increase by at least £400 if we moved to electric vehicles. It would completely destroy our competitive edge, resulting in us folding. As stated earlier, the figures simply don't stack up.
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    Motorbikes' prefer leather to lycra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Motorbikes' prefer leather to lycra.
    It offers far greater protection - and keeps windchill at bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    It offers far greater protection - and keeps windchill at bay.
    I am feeling the wind chill on my gtec these days the temperature drops quite a lot after 3pm.

    I opt for many layers.

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    ah !531 the bikers pinnacle of ownership back in years gone by ,the best of rides .didnt know was used on m/bikes though.but hey two wheels open experience is a joy.had both motorised for sheer exilaration at over the ton,and the meditative peddled sojourn through true country idylls,the cars wanderings cant compare,.but hey our cars our daily go to workhorse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A) There's nothing I'd like better for the business. We even looked at cost of replacing the 'fleet' (both works vehicles) with 'leccy ones a while ago, but the figures really don't stack up....In order to recoup their cost, our prices would have to rise massively, making us uncompetitive. It's just not a viable business model.

    B) Because the fuel is renewable (unlike gas, etc), a correctly fuelled and maintained woodstove is one of the best ways to reduce domestic greenhouse gas emissions.

    N.B. For personal transport, I do have an electric set of wheels.
    OK, so we'll just ignore the fact that wood burning stoves chuck out more pollution than any other domestic heating system, just because it's renewable??????? that makes it OK to spew out more CO2 than anything else, you can argue that they are carbon neutral because more trees are planted to replace those burned, suppose that's why deforestation continues at an alarming rate for many reasons including fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    OK, so we'll just ignore the fact that wood burning stoves chuck out more pollution than any other domestic heating system, just because it's renewable??????? that makes it OK to spew out more CO2 than anything else, you can argue that they are carbon neutral because more trees are planted to replace those burned, suppose that's why deforestation continues at an alarming rate for many reasons including fuel.
    Harvesting the crop in rotation from a properly managed woodland produces a 100% renewable fuel....

    How many gas fields absorb as much CO2 as they are responsible for producing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    I know one of the bikes was named the Vulcan - but I cannot find any links to the motor company.
    I don't think there is any connection between the Vulcan motorbike and Vulcan engineering.

    The Hesketh motor bikes seem to have had more false dawns and company failures than actually producing any great numbers of anything.

    I noticed one post relating to Southport FC, the Vulcan engineering company bought the existing Southport FC and renamed it Southport Vulcan, becoming the very first sponsored football club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    So basically, everyone else should make the uneconomic change to electric vehicles.....except you. It’s no wonder so many posters on here deride your sheer stupidity.

    Electric Bike??

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    I don't think there is any connection between the Vulcan motorbike and Vulcan engineering.

    The Hesketh motor bikes seem to have had more false dawns and company failures than actually producing any great numbers of anything.

    I noticed one post relating to Southport FC, the Vulcan engineering company bought the existing Southport FC and renamed it Southport Vulcan, becoming the very first sponsored football club.
    That is interesting- I did not know that.

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