Time travel a Reality

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You're obviously forgetting about the large number of people who lived through the 1918 flu pandemic who were still around in the 70s. Most of them had good reason to remember it, having lost so many family members. The 'things you have been asked to do' during the Covid pandemic would be nothing new to them, and nothing to laugh about. Social distancing was recommended, along with hygiene measures and wearing a mask. Schools and other public buildings were closed. Those showing symptoms were told to quarantine for 14 days. The similarities between then and now are quite amazing considering it was just over 100 years ago.

Oh no they didn't! Check out the meta data on those web pages and you will find that they have been uploaded fairly recently by virtue of the EU commission GDPR agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_i...United_Kingdom

https://academic.oup.com/hwj/article/81/1/106/2385595

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive....81031/071/0004

You need to recognise propaganda when you see it. Spanish influenza broke out in Oct 1918 with 2240 deaths.

[seivad]

Oh no they didn't! Check out the meta data on those web pages and you will find that they have been uploaded fairly recently by virtue of the EU commission GDPR agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_i...United_Kingdom

https://academic.oup.com/hwj/article/81/1/106/2385595

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive....81031/071/0004

You need to recognise propaganda when you see it. Spanish influenza broke out in Oct 2018 with 2240 deaths.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

What do you mean by 'Oh no they didn't? Didn't what? Didn't lose family members or didn't have similar restrictions to the ones we have now?

What web pages? What has been uploaded by the EU commission GDPR Agency?(whatever that is) I didn't look at any web pages.

You need to recognise that some of us are old enough to have known a lot of people who lived through the 1918 pandemic, including close family members, many of whom lost loved ones.

I'll tell you one thing though, I can guarantee that your 2,240 flu deaths is incorrect.
And what on earth is the relevance of your links?

[Toodles McGinty]

Oh no they didn't! Check out the meta data on those web pages and you will find that they have been uploaded fairly recently by virtue of the EU commission GDPR agency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_i...United_Kingdom

https://academic.oup.com/hwj/article/81/1/106/2385595

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive....81031/071/0004

You need to recognise propaganda when you see it. Spanish influenza broke out in Oct 2018 with 2240 deaths.

All 3 links lead to articles about the 1918 'flu pandemic.

You need to recognise numbers when you see them. 1918 means nineteen eighteen, not twenty eighteen.

[seivad]

All 3 links lead to articles about the 1918 'flu pandemic.

You need to recognise numbers when you see them. 1918 means nineteen eighteen, not twenty eighteen.

You got further than I did! The British Newspaper Archive wanted me to register. The Quennell's series 'The History of Everyday Life' was too long a read. I scrolled through the headings and didn't spot any section that seemed to relate to the flu. And I would hardly cite a book like this as an authorative source of flu statistics. The Wiki page provided one item on the flu, stating that from Oct. 27- Nov. 2nd 1918, 2,200 people died in London.

Our resident source of 'factual facts' never lets us down. Not only does (s)he use figures for 1918 only, the Wiki item is for a 7 day period in London only. The outbreak started in July in the UK. It lasted until August, then it stopped. It returned in October, and was much worse than the earlier outbreak.

(S)he seems to be blithely unaware that although the pandemic is either referred to as the 1918 flu, or the Spanish flu, 1918 is only the year it began. It lasted until 1920.

EDIT: And well spotted on the '2018'. I missed that!

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All 3 links lead to articles about the 1918 'flu pandemic.

You need to recognise numbers when you see them. 1918 means nineteen eighteen, not twenty eighteen.

Correction made!

[seivad]

Correction made!

Maybe you should correct your numbers too, and your claim that the flu broke out in October 1918.

Source: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf...91571901200502

In the 1919 report by Sir Arthur Newsholme for the Royal Society of Medicine, Figure 6c clearly shows the spike in deaths from flu in London during July/August. Then there's a lull until it picks up again in the week of October 7th. For the 4 week period beginning Oct.7 through Nov. 4, a total of 6,598 deaths from influenza occurred in London alone. A slightly larger number than your 2,240, and for only 4 weeks in one city. Can you imagine what the nationwide number would be?

I think that we can also eliminate the possibility of EU propaganda influencing Newsholme's figures in 1919.

From the report:

'The curve shows clearly that in London after an epidemic causing excessive deaths during some six weeks in July and August - weekly deaths from influenza 10 (twenty-fifth week), 67, 218, 287, 192, 861 38 (thirty-first week)-the weekly deaths declined, the deaths in each of the following weeks being 21, 20, 12, 12, 12, 14, 9, 17, 17.

In the forty-first week occurred a sudden increase of deaths to 80, and then in following weeks the deaths numbered 371, 1,256, 2,458, and 2,433.

Reference to fig. 6c shows that this experience, as already stated, is different from that in any preceding year.'

[rolling-thunder]

If time travel was to become a reality - what period in time would you think you would have liked to have lived in,or would move forward to?

If it became reality i'm not sure i'd like to live in any time period but the one i'm in. It would be nice to visit the future to see how the Human race turned out but the real pleasure would be visiting the past. 5 minutes in any ancient time period would allow us to learn so much about our ancestors. 5 minutes of film from the Battle of Hastings or the battle of Towton {would probably mentally scar your for life} would allow us to learn so much. Visiting a Medieval market place or Inn or visiting an Abby or Monastic site before the reformation {for this country}. If you could film hi res footage of each 5 minute visit i'm sure all the History books would need to be rewritten. My favourite time period is the Wars of the Roses, visiting Shrewsbury or cities like Shrewsbury would be fascinating and extremely educational.

[silver fox]

If it because reality i'm not sure i'd like to live in any time period but the one i'm in. It would be nice to visit the future to see how the Human race turned out but the real pleasure would be visiting the past. 5 minutes in any ancient time period would allow us to learn so much about our ancestors. 5 minutes of film the Battle of Hastings or the battle of Towton {would probably mentally scar your for life} would allow us to learn so much. Visiting a Medieval market place or Inn or visiting an Abby or Monastic site before the reformation {for this country}. If you could film hi res footage of each 5 minute visit i'm sure all the History books would need to be rewritten. My favourite time period is the Wars of the Roses, visiting Shrewsbury or cities like Shrewsbury would be fascinating and extremely educational.

It would be great to travel back in time to see and possibly record what was actually happening, but physical time travel would create untold anomalies, I don't think travel to the future would ever be possible, after all it hasn't happened yet.

[The PNP]

It would be great to travel back in time to see and possibly record what was actually happening, but physical time travel would create untold anomalies, I don't think travel to the future would ever be possible, after all it hasn't happened yet.

Time is indeed a curious thing. Science tells us it is a 'dimension', as in Einsteins 'time-space' theories.....But are we really time-travellers, travelling into the future through time, at the rate of 24 hours per day. Or are we actually static, existing in a sort of permanent 'present' - with time passing by us instead?

[said]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

What do you mean by 'Oh no they didn't? Didn't what? Didn't lose family members or didn't have similar restrictions to the ones we have now?

What web pages? What has been uploaded by the EU commission GDPR Agency?(whatever that is) I didn't look at any web pages.

You need to recognise that some of us are old enough to have known a lot of people who lived through the 1918 pandemic, including close family members, many of whom lost loved ones.

I'll tell you one thing though, I can guarantee that your 2,240 flu deaths is incorrect.
And what on earth is the relevance of your links?

There were no masks worn and there was no safe distancing. The outbreak came while the people were still mourning their loved ones who had been killed or lost at war. The people had survived the War and were far more stoic than many of the population are now.

The links show that the outbreak was not treated as a source of panic at that time, the archived newspaper headlines hardly referred to it, the history of 1918 in the British timeline does not include it.

Apart from the Spanish influenza 1918, there was Asian flu in 1957, Hong Kong Flu 1968 - was there a panic then?

The count can only be an estimate because:

"Influenza is not a notifiable disease. It can cause a wide range of illnesses, from a very mild or asymptomatic infection to a very serious illness, which can result in hospitalisation and death." Govt. Stats.

[said]

Time is indeed a curious thing. Science tells us it is a 'dimension', as in Einsteins 'time-space' theories.....But are we really time-travellers, travelling into the future through time, at the rate of 24 hours per day. Or are we actually static, existing in a sort of permanent 'present' - with time passing by us instead?

Food for thought, Buddy! Time cannot be defined - so take your pick. Time is a man made concept.

[Alikado]

Food for thought, Buddy! Time cannot be defined - so take your pick. Time is a man made concept.

Time is not man made and defines itself, they only man made parts are the labels. A Day is the time it takes for a revolution of the Earth, a Year is the full cycle of the movements of the earth to come back to the same position.