"Person of colour"

[seivad]

Not really - I do not think he was being intentionally disrespectful. Ms. Harris has spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of the family. She was in India for much of her early life and was strongly influenced by her Indian grandfather. Ms. Harris became familiar with Hinduism and attended a Hindu Temple with her mother. Ms. Harris has technically identified herself as being Indian.

It is not Ms.Harris's colour which gives rise to queries about her suitability for such a position and questionable popularity among the American people.

You accuse Alikado of not reading your link, yet it's obvious from your comments on Kamala Harris that it's you who didn't read it fully, or perhaps you just used one of your unique interpretations of the facts.

How could she have spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of a the family, when her mother was the only family member who lived in the US? As for spending much of her earlier life in India, as has already been pointed out, she visited India several times. I have had family members visit me in Canada several times, it didn't mean they spent most of their life here! Her early life was spent in the US and Canada.

Harris may have occasionally attended a Hindu temple with her mother, but she regularly attended an African American Baptist church where she sang in the choir. Harris always says that her and her sister were brought up as black children in the US. She has always hated being pushed into either racial group and identifies herself as being an American... which is exactly what she is.

I get it, you don't like Kamala Harris or think that she's a suitable choice for VP. The American people obviously don't share your views. 78,956,026 Americans voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. That's 5,685,847 more votes than the Trump/Pence team.

If you have ever seen her on any of the Senate committees she sits on, or during debates and hearings, I fail to understand why you could think she's unsuitable. I think Biden has made an excellent choice.

[said]

You accuse Alikado of not reading your link, yet it's obvious from your comments on Kamala Harris that it's you who didn't read it fully, or perhaps you just used one of your unique interpretations of the facts.

How could she have spent most of her life involved with her mother's side of a the family, when her mother was the only family member who lived in the US? As for spending much of her earlier life in India, as has already been pointed out, she visited India several times. I have had family members visit me in Canada several times, it didn't mean they spent most of their life here! Her early life was spent in the US and Canada.

Harris may have occasionally attended a Hindu temple with her mother, but she regularly attended an African American Baptist church where she sang in the choir. Harris always says that her and her sister were brought up as black children in the US. She has always hated being pushed into either racial group and identifies herself as being an American... which is exactly what she is.

I get it, you don't like Kamala Harris or think that she's a suitable choice for VP. The American people obviously don't share your views. 78,956,026 Americans voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. That's 5,685,847 more votes than the Trump/Pence team.

If you have ever seen her on any of the Senate committees she sits on, or during debates and hearings, I fail to understand why you could think she's unsuitable. I think Biden has made an excellent choice.

Fair enough! You have your views, I have mine.

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Kamala Harris was born in California and therefore American.

That was not the point of my response - however, a person born in Britain is not British if born of foreign parents. But I understand that Ms.Harris's parents are both American, so that would mean that she is indeed American.

[Derek H]

That was not the point of my response - however, a person born in Britain is not British if born of foreign parents. But I understand that Ms.Harris's parents are both American, so that would mean that she is indeed American.

A person born in the US (irrespective of nationality of parents) is an American citizen by birthright. A right that nobody can take from him or her. Check Jus Soli.

[local]

That was not the point of my response - however, a person born in Britain is not British if born of foreign parents. But I understand that Ms.Harris's parents are both American, so that would mean that she is indeed American.

One wonders what you call that someone?

Are you making a dog born in a stable argument?

[seivad]

That was not the point of my response - however, a person born in Britain is not British if born of foreign parents.But I understand that Ms.Harris's parents are both American, so that would mean that she is indeed American.

Not necessarily so. It depends on the immigration status of the foreign parents. If at least one of the parents has one of the following: indefinite leave to remain, right to re-admission, right of abode or permanent resident status, then the child born in Britain is automatically a British citizen.

I know that you and the Lord's octogenarian believe that a person's ethnicity defines their nationality, i.e. If you look Chinese then you are Chinese, even if you are actually the 5th generation of your family to be born in Britain. Strange that you don't apply the same logic to those descended from white skinned foreign immigrants.

Would we be having this conversation about Kamala Harris's nationality and how she identifies herself if she was the daughter of a Swedish mother and an Irish father? I think not.

[Hamble]

That was not the point of my response - however, a person born in Britain is not British if born of foreign parents. But I understand that Ms.Harris's parents are both American, so that would mean that she is indeed American.

Jus soli ('right of soil').

In America place of birth automatically determines the nationality of the baby-jus soli.
Almost all countries outside the Americas instead attribute nationality to the parents-jus sanguinis.

The UK is jus sanguinis ('right of blood').
You're usually automatically a British citizen if you were both: born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983. born when one of your parents was a British citizen or 'settled' in the UK.

[gsgsgs]

What happens if you are born mid flight or mid sail?

Would you be your parents nationality/nationalities
The nationality of the departing port/airport
The nationality of the arrival port/airport
The nationality of the airline/ship

and

how many nationalities can you have, I'm aware of someone with 3?

[said]

Jus soli ('right of soil').

In America place of birth automatically determines the nationality of the baby-jus soli.
Almost all countries outside the Americas instead attribute nationality to the parents-jus sanguinis.

The UK is jus sanguinis ('right of blood').
You're usually automatically a British citizen if you were both: born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983. born when one of your parents was a British citizen or 'settled' in the UK.

Thanks Hamble for clarifying that and er - for the Latin language lesson

[said]

What happens if you are born mid flight or mid sail?

Would you be your parents nationality/nationalities
The nationality of the departing port/airport
The nationality of the arrival port/airport
The nationality of the airline/ship

and

how many nationalities can you have, I'm aware of someone with 3?

Precedence is for the parents nationality. Those born in international water/air space take the nationality of the ship/airline, and if you are born within twelve miles of the US you become a US citizen.

In the UK, there is no restrictions on how many nationalities one can have, but some countries ban dual nationality while others limit the number.

Alternatively, if an aircraft crashes on the border of two countries - in which country do you bury the survivors?

[seivad]

What happens if you are born mid flight or mid sail?

Would you be your parents nationality/nationalities
The nationality of the departing port/airport
The nationality of the arrival port/airport
The nationality of the airline/ship

and

how many nationalities can you have, I'm aware of someone with 3?

I've only got two, but Canada does allow you to have two or more.

[gsgsgs]

Precedence is for the parents nationality. Those born in international water/air space take the nationality of the ship/airline, and if you are born within twelve miles of the US you become a US citizen.

In the UK, there is no restrictions on how many nationalities one can have, but some countries ban dual nationality while others limit the number.

Alternatively, if an aircraft crashes on the border of two countries - in which country do you bury the survivors?

nice try

[Hamble]

Thanks Hamble for clarifying that and er - for the Latin language lesson

Te gratissimum.

[Hamble]

What happens if you are born mid flight or mid sail?

Would you be your parents nationality/nationalities
The nationality of the departing port/airport
The nationality of the arrival port/airport
The nationality of the airline/ship

and

how many nationalities can you have, I'm aware of someone with 3?

I presume jus sanguinis applies as the mother will have a passport if travelling.

A child born on a RAF German Airbase would be British.

[Alikado]

Just a quick thought, all these descriptions 'person of colour', Bame, mixed race etc basically mean not white, so when does a person stop becoming white?
A true white person is probably a blue eyed blonde but most of us have darker hair so when do we 'cross to the other side'?