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  1. local says:20/11/2020 08:46 PM
    One thing about targetting us cyclists is we can get a lot each, it must work out in the high thousands per cyclist per year to provide these facilities.

    Could I have this swapped to a Limo for the winter please ?

    It's just a bit wearing getting so wet.






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  3. Sap33 says:20/11/2020 10:34 PM
    [QUOTE=muddyboots;6751210]
    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Re-opening the northern Park and Ride would be a wise move......What we don't need, is a town centre being turned into a glorified version of a Tesco car-park![/QU ....... tesco is booming as is aldi home bargains argos etc etc,, unlike the town centre....our town worked wonderfully well until they closed the roads and pay and display...the town was booming....in the real world people use cars not bikes to shop...you live in some fantasy world that will destroy our once great town...fantasies dont pay rates and rents...you will be a very lonely person in the town sat on your sad bike
    The biggest problem that the town centre is up against is internet shopping! The big difference for Tesco and Aldi is they sell food, which isn’t such a big internet success at the moment! Argos isn’t so much a shop as a ‘click and collect’ service and the likes of B&M’s sales strategy (pile high sell cheap) would struggle in town due to the design of the older buildings in the town centre.

    If you think it’s pedestrianisation and pay and display that’s the problem, you need to get out a bit more and visit other towns. All are suffering and it’s because of us changing our shopping habits.

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  5. Nash says:21/11/2020 08:14 PM
    This sound like one of those ideas that look good on the back of a fag packet.

    The town is run down, and it will be years before there is money available to make more than a few cosmetic changes.

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  7. libraryguy says:21/11/2020 09:01 PM
    For once the truth from Sefton Council - they want to send Southport back to 1838 with no cars.

    As usual, they're tearing this town to bits and there's ****** all we can do about it.

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  9. sandGroundZero says:22/11/2020 02:01 PM

    image ex:

    Back to the Future

  10. muddyboots says:25/11/2020 05:08 PM
    so has excluding cars worked for our town?, no, its a gigantic failure, shoppers and diners in cars just shop and eat out of town...no one will ever ever get on a bike or a bus!...what is so hard to understand?...are our planners brain dead?,,,or are they trying to create jim careys the truman show?...the town centre is now just for losers.....please for gods sake get someone with a brain to restore our town

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  12. muddyboots says:25/11/2020 05:12 PM
    [QUOTE=The PNP;6751241]
    Quote Originally Posted by muddyboots View Post
    I strongly believe a town centre becomes a better place to be, when transformed into quality public open space for shoppers to move about in. Where visitors, young and old alike, can stroll in safety from shop to shop. Were families can relax for once, without the worry of their kids running under a bus or something......A towns central area should be for leisure and pleasure, for enjoying free time in and for shopping in. Not a virtual dual-carriageway for the districts through-traffic!


    Parking issues, when/if central Lord St becomes traffic-free:

    *How many parking spaces are there between the Monument and the 'Brick? None!

    *How many parking spaces will be lost by clearing through-traffic out of that zone? None!

    *How many visitors will shun the town because no Lord St parking spaces have been lost? None!

    it must be lovely living in your secure padded cell....

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  14. sandGroundZero says:25/11/2020 10:13 PM
    muddyboots says:
    "so has excluding cars worked for our town?, no, its a gigantic failure,
    • shoppers and diners in cars just shop and eat out of town
    • no one will ever ever get on a bike or a bus!
    • what is so hard to understand?...are our planners brain dead?
    • the town centre is now just for losers
    please for gods sake get someone with a brain to restore our town
    "

    It is a very curious insistence that cars have been excluded! Which Southport are you from?

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