Time to revisit restrictions?

[Alikado]

New Stats released by PHE have been released which reveal the most 'Popular' places for catching the virus. Surely the way forward to return to normality is to tighten up on areas where we are most vulnerable and to slacken off in areas where there is little chance of catching it.
The worst activities to undertake are in Education and Shopping which account for over half of the cases analysed, whilst these are both necessary surely they should be looking to make these activities safer.
Shops have taken precautions though I often get the impression it is only paying lip service and is only a PR exercise at best. But it is time to crackdown and to implement strict regulations and cut numbers inside the shops, coming out of Lockdown on Dec 2nd is an ideal opportunity to start afresh. When the first lockdown occurred we saw queues around the carparks and whilst that is probably not desirable in winter at least it would encourage people to shop 'Offpeak' and make full use of the spread of hours across the week in the shops.
Similarly in schools and Colleges to break the cycle should not the student numbers be cut by doing a mixture of schooling in school with an extended spread of hours to cut down numbers on site together with a mixture of more homework and online teaching.
Implementing these sort of measures should lessen infections and other less dangerous activities should be resumed (at least a bloke playing golf isn't being dragged around shops) and restricted hospitality could be reopened.


https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...tract-19310501

[Hamble]

We are in lockdown and only allowed out for certain reasons.

If shopping for food is the top reason it follows infections will go up
if people do not follow the guidelines.

[Toodles McGinty]

I reckon that until we've all been vaccinated fully against this virus, something is going to have to be done about schools in particular.

My 3 youngest grandkids were off this week. Two with chickenpox, one because she'd been in contact with Coronavirus through school. Their brother, 10, went in school.

In their school, one entire year is out, half of the others are in and out, another local primary has closed.

Plus people still just aren't following the guidance. 1000s dead in the past week, yet people just go about as normal. My elderly neighbours, whose groceries I add to my order so they don't have to go to the shops, had their son round yesterday from Manchester. I know it's tough, we all want to see our loved ones, but it's a few weeks, for goodness sake.

Those of us who are following guidelines are wondering what the point is, if we aren't all in this together.

[Alikado]

We are in lockdown and only allowed out for certain reasons.

If shopping for food is the top reason it follows infections will go up
if people do not follow the guidelines.

That is the current situation, most of the country before this were under minimal restrictions.

[Hamble]

This week we had new visiting guidelines from mothers care home.

I sat at a distance in a designated out house with the door open mask visor and gloves on whilst we chatted.

Mr Hamble waved from outside the gate.

We drove to my fathers house and as last night as he is a bit deaf stand at the gate talk via mobile as he stood at his front door.

After it was so inviting to just pull up by the beach and go for a walk that would not have been in the spirit of the guidelines.

Then we drove home had a quick walk around a local reservoir off the Grane Rd.

[Hamble]

That is the current situation, most of the country before this were under minimal restrictions.

2 weeks now.
Before that were the infections up from non essential shops and pubs?

[Lamparilla]

I think the restrictions should be even stricter.

After 2nd December, people will just go back to normal, have huge Christmas gatherings and wonder why there's another lockdown in January.

It seems to me that the age group flouting the restrictions the most, won't qualify for the vaccine for months.

[Toodles McGinty]

This week we had new visiting guidelines from mothers care home.

I sat at a distance in a designated out house with the door open mask visor and gloves on whilst we chatted.

Mr Hamble waved from outside the gate.

We drove to my fathers house and as last night as he is a bit deaf stand at the gate talk via mobile as he stood at his front door.

After it was so inviting to just pull up by the beach and go for a walk that would not have been in the spirit of the guidelines.

Then we drove home had a quick walk around a local reservoir off the Grane Rd.

I'm glad you got to see your parents, H, even in a restricted way.

A friend runs a take-away place. She says that right now her customers go in from 12-3pm. Almost all are out of towners. Most ask why other places aren't open. Unbelievable.

You have a legitimate reason to be here. You've more right to walk on the beach than most who are around there right now. I'd take a break and a breather on the beach if I were you. It can't be easy to see your folks under those circumstances.

[The PNP]

I think the restrictions should be even stricter.

After 2nd December, people will just go back to normal, have huge Christmas gatherings and wonder why there's another lockdown in January.

It seems to me that the age group flouting the restrictions the most, won't qualify for the vaccine for months.

Compared to the first lockdown, general behaviour this time is nothing like the same. Roads emptied first time, but this time around they're busy. Supermarkets aren't diligently wiping trolley handles like they were, the aisles aren't one-way only, etc. Apart from requiring masks, you'd hardly know there's a pandemic on!

Re inoculations: It was said on the news today, that they're hoping protection will last for up to six months following a jab. If that is the case, it looks like we're in for an endless series of jabs for the rest of our lives!

[donkey22]

I think the restrictions should be even stricter.

After 2nd December, people will just go back to normal, have huge Christmas gatherings and wonder why there's another lockdown in January.

It seems to me that the age group flouting the restrictions the most, won't qualify for the vaccine for months.

I couldn’t agree more with you regarding the need for tougher restrictions. The problem is that people just aren’t following them this time. This lockdown is completely different to the first one, it feels so half hearted.

[*concerned*]

Its not just restrictions though, its how we use masks!

Whilst waiting (in my car) at Ainsdale Station crossing, a lady got off the train wearing a mask, she took it off folded it up, put it in her handbag, and got out her phone, rang who ever it was, ith the phone and hand touching her face.

Now, IF her mask had any Covid molecules on it, they would pass from her hand to phone to face !

[local]

Children's lives are being ruined by the rush to go online it must be avoided at all costs.

If it needs tighter restrictions then so be it but anyone who has any experience of online learning knows what an abject failure it is.

The numbers are bound to be higher with places that have more people in them.

For some people their only trip out is to a supermarket, stricter adherence to cleanliness and mask-wearing is a price we will have to pay.

[Alikado]

2 weeks now.
Before that were the infections up from non essential shops and pubs?

It is an analysis of track and trace cases going back a while not just recent.

[Alikado]

Children's lives are being ruined by the rush to go online it must be avoided at all costs.

If it needs tighter restrictions then so be it but anyone who has any experience of online learning knows what an abject failure it is.

The numbers are bound to be higher with places that have more people in them.

For some people their only trip out is to a supermarket, stricter adherence to cleanliness and mask-wearing is a price we will have to pay.

The supermarkets need to be sorted out, the restrictions on people entering only seem to be to stop crowding around the door, once that is cleared it is cram them in. I visited Sainsburys the other afternoon for bread and milk and there was a minimal queue caused by wiping trollies and baskets, the door Marshall swapped over handed the tablet over 5 mins later when I left there was a queue of around a dozen, the bloke on the door was told to get them in, he protested that he was letting 1 out 1 in to no avail. Supermarkets obstruct the flow with pinch points using baskets and displays in the aisles these need clearing away to let the customers circulate, the admission to the store needs to controlled by how many are queuing for the tills not the queue for the trolley wipes also the trollies and baskets should be wiped by staff when collected not by the customers.

[local]

You are right standards have dropped.