Do you support the Tier Restrictions

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If you do support the Tier restrictions, can you please explain why you are okay with allowing the government to control who enters your own house and who can keep their business alive - when there has been no significant increase in mortality for six months and we are now experiencing that regular NHS winter crisis which we have every year?

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If you do support the Tier restrictions, can you please explain why you are okay with allowing the government to control who enters your own house and who can keep their business alive - when there has been no significant increase in mortality for six months and we are now experiencing that regular NHS winter crisis which we have every year?

I'll give you a clue you idiot.

New covid cases.

26th Dec... 36,532
27th Dec... 30,501
28th Dec... 41,385


71,109 Deaths in 9 months. BTW the average for flu is 11,000 just in case you decide to make that ridiculous argument.

and this is going to get worse over the next couple of weeks. Because CV19 doesn't give a **** about Christmas.

It's clowns like you, who help put us in this situation.


81,588,607 case world wide, 1,780,038 deaths.



Hope you fall ill over the next month or so, Only to find the hospitals are full of covid cases. see how blasé you are about it then. End up sharing a ward with covid patients or better still have them have to decide between them and you. Because it's not just the infected that are affected by this virus.
Maybe you should apply for a job as a porter on a covid ward. No PPE of course, As clearly you are immune and won't catch or pass it on.


I ended up in hospital over night Christmas eve with my Son, As well as worrying about the issues he had, I was also ******** myself we may both come out iller than we went in, especially as he is vulnerable.

So sorry if this sound a bit personal, but quite honestly I feel like smashing idiots like you in the F'in face.

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If you do support the Tier restrictions, can you please explain why you are okay with allowing the government to control who enters your own house and who can keep their business alive - when there has been no significant increase in mortality for six months and we are now experiencing that regular NHS winter crisis which we have every year?

For Christ sake will you never stop!

From day one you have started thread upon thread on this subject, baiting and goading.

There is absolutely no point in commenting or posting as you simply deny any facts provided, you scour the internet to find any half baked, fake news article to back up your twisted point of view.

I'm not going to repeat previous conversions we had but to say I have very personal reasons to hope we go back into a national lockdown sooner than later to try to curtail this new strain before we hit another devastating milestone in Covid deaths.

I strongly suggest you watch the excellent BBC series Hospital, then have the common decency comeback here and comment again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...w8ktc/hospital

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55462701

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If you do support the Tier restrictions, can you please explain why you are okay with allowing the government to control who enters your own house and who can keep their business alive - when there has been no significant increase in mortality for six months and we are now experiencing that regular NHS winter crisis which we have every year?

1. Get your thick head out of the sand.
2. Put your tv on and watch the news.
3. Stop reading dubious posts on some dodgy Facebook group and,
5. Please stop posting your ridiculous garbage on here. One day someone might take you seriously and mistakenly think you know what you’re talking about.

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If this is the case, why don't they open the Nightingale hospitals that they had to close due to them being empty?

Since the April / May Spike there has been nothing like Pandemic levels, if you compare the deaths to other years such as 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016 you are not seeing a massive gigantic spike for this time of year.

From ONS Statistics, deaths as percentage of population has been lower in 2020 than in other years. If you get the data and draw a graph you can see for yourself.

What are the covid death rates for new cases compared to this time of year for 2019, 2018, 2017?

Look at all the lorries parked at Dover....

15,526 tests only 36 positives, (0.23%) enough to lockdown a country?

I'll give you a clue you idiot.

New covid cases.

26th Dec... 36,532
27th Dec... 30,501
28th Dec... 41,385


71,109 Deaths in 9 months. BTW the average for flu is 11,000 just in case you decide to make that ridiculous argument.

and this is going to get worse over the next couple of weeks. Because CV19 doesn't give a **** about Christmas.

It's clowns like you, who help put us in this situation.

Asymptiomatic Transmission has been shown to be false, based on scientific journals.


81,588,607 case world wide, 1,780,038 deaths.



Hope you fall ill over the next month or so, Only to find the hospitals are full of covid cases. see how blasé you are about it then. End up sharing a ward with covid patients or better still have them have to decide between them and you. Because it's not just the infected that are affected by this virus.
Maybe you should apply for a job as a porter on a covid ward. No PPE of course, As clearly you are immune and won't catch or pass it on.

A&E and ICUs are always at overcapacity this time of year in every developed country. You can google this. Also hospitals are empty with patients being put into a colds and coughs ward (Covid) or diarrhea and vomiting (Covid with gastroenteritis) Where did all the other diseases disappear to?


I ended up in hospital over night Christmas eve with my Son, As well as worrying about the issues he had, I was also ******** myself we may both come out iller than we went in, especially as he is vulnerable.

So sorry if this sound a bit personal, but quite honestly I feel like smashing idiots like you in the F'in face.

Sorry for your Son and hope that he is okay.

Also looking at critical care bed occupancy, occupancy is lower than average... should it be higher or at max capacity?

Why has covid eradicated the flu?

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Go onto the ONS statistics and plot deaths for the year as a percentage of population for 2020. Do that for other years, do you think deaths are higher overall for this year or lower than previous years?

This is the governments own statistics, why is bed occupancy lower than average for this time of year?

I understand you may have your own personal reasons, but anecdotal evidence doesnt correlate with the facts.

So I am using ONS data and NHS data, do you dismiss these as fake news?

For Christ sake will you never stop!

From day one you have started thread upon thread on this subject, baiting and goading.

There is absolutely no point in commenting or posting as you simply deny any facts provided, you scour the internet to find any half baked, fake news article to back up your twisted point of view.

I'm not going to repeat previous conversions we had but to say I have very personal reasons to hope we go back into a national lockdown sooner than later to try to curtail this new strain before we hit another devastating milestone in Covid deaths.

I strongly suggest you watch the excellent BBC series Hospital, then have the common decency comeback here and comment again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...w8ktc/hospital

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55462701

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1. Not an argument
2. Still not an argument and WMDs in Iraq was on the news and they were proven not to exist.
3. I am using ONS and NHS, BMJ, WHO statistics...
4. What happened to point number 4?
5. Still not an argument.

Ad hominem attacks on speech does not constitute a sound and rational opinion that would not be considered garbage?

1. Get your thick head out of the sand.
2. Put your tv on and watch the news.
3. Stop reading dubious posts on some dodgy Facebook group and,
5. Please stop posting your ridiculous garbage on here. One day someone might take you seriously and mistakenly think you know what you’re talking about.

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You've been warned numerous times re. constantly trolling the forum with disinformation on this subject. Your so called 'facts' have been discredited more times than I've had hot dinners.

This has gone on for way too long. I'm sure that I'm not alone in thinking that if I have to read these same old, same old opinions one more time, I will scream. I am closing this thread. I will also remove any future repetitions, and any complaints from you will also be removed. If you have any objections, I suggest you check the terms you agreed to when you joined this forum. The number of user names you've had, you should know them off by heart.