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    Today merits a quarantini.
     

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    — a thoughtful article by Anne Applebaum of The Atlantic
    Outside politics, outside the law, outside the norms—the seditionists have in fact declared their independence from the rest of us. January 6 was indeed their 1776: They declared that they want to live in a different America from the one the rest of us inhabit, ruled over by a different president chosen according to a different rule book. And yet they cannot be wished away, or sent away, or somehow locked up. They will not leave of their own accord, and Americans who accept Biden’s lawful victory won’t either. We have no choice except to coexist.

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    Biden is old, there's no doubt but he seems pretty fit. They all do really considering the humungous amount of steps they all seemed to be either walking up or down during the day.

    Barring something dramatic such as a stroke or heart attack (which could happen to anyone, just ask my fit and well neighbour still in his fifties) I think he will surprise everyone. Plus he has a vigorous cabinet and administration to get the work done.
    It's striking how different the Democrat personnel look compared to the Trump bunch of incompetents. Much more representative of a very diverse nation.
    Luckily the Trump crazies are now either in the grip of PTSD that their predictions didn't come true or railing against Trump as they begin to realise they've been had. Judging by the conservative sites I have seen they are either looking for secret clues to a future plan (there were 17 flags at Trumps Air force base farewell. Ooh, Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet!) or calling Trump a traitor (how fortunes turn).
    The progressive forums fall between 'We must forgive if we are to move on' and 'Hell, no!' Sadly many have relatives who need to be deprogrammed before any progress can be made. I read The Cult of Trump some time ago and that seems like a path forward . No doubt there will be many profitting from 'interventions'.

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    Yes, the Trump crazies predictions of nuclear wars and widespread civil unrest have proved yet more orange mist inventions.

    Who can forget Nancy Pelosi's nonsense before the impeachment vote, how did so many get taken in?

    I'm still waiting for some proof of Trump's Capitol Incitement I even provided the transcript to elicit something.

    The reality is he has as predicted gone to his golf course.

    Melania looked good.

    Old Joe don't forget is a sea of plastic and Botox.

    President Harris seems much more likely as Joe gets his medication increased to meet the strain.

    He is already on a few.

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    Arrow …still waiting for some proof of Trump's Capitol Incitement

    …how did so many get taken in? | I'm still waiting for some proof of Trump's Capitol Incitement I even provided the transcript to elicit something. …post #200

    The reality is he has as predicted gone to his golf course. | Melania looked good. | Old Joe don't forget is a sea of plastic and Botox. | President Harris seems much more likely as Joe gets his medication increased to meet the strain. | He is already on a few.
    What's the point, exactly?

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    What should not happen is for Trump to be more newsworthy than Biden.
    I suppose he will end up a kind of Tony Blair figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    What should not happen is for Trump to be more newsworthy than Biden.
    I suppose he will end up a kind of Tony Blair figure.
    Even Blair didn't tell that many lies.
    Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!

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    Washington Post has calculated that assuming an 8 hour working day, he lied on average every 16 minutes.

    Can I recommend the Comey Rules movie series? No doubt slanted Comey's way but documented events and conversations depicted show just how thoroughly corrupted Trump's government was.

    Trump seemed to think every institution existed to follow his political agenda.

    the idea that he didn't incite the Capitol rioters is absurd. He was grooming them for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2 View Post
    Even Blair didn't tell that many lies.
    True though Blair's lies led to more deaths sadly.

    More pointedly Blair regularly gives interviews on current political topics of current political interest.
    It is quite a competition for press to accompany the above with the most unflattering photo and an in depth account of his family successful foray in
    Capitalism.
    Trump could go either way with the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    You do get carried away with your invective don't you ?
    and then you get it wrong (again) I have lost count of the number of times I have corrected you, calm down the orange one is going.

    Compared to the riots America has had recently this is definitely no worse.

    It is wrong but America has allowed people to riot and damage property for too long.



    Donald Trump tells supporters to go home after Capitol stormed by rioters

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...rat-joe-biden/
    He told them five hours late and even then was patently only doing it because he was told it would be wise.
    Do give it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    True though Blair's lies led to more deaths sadly.

    More pointedly Blair regularly gives interviews on current political topics of current political interest.
    It is quite a competition for press to accompany the above with the most unflattering photo and an in depth account of his family successful foray in
    Capitalism.
    Trump could go either way with the latter.
    not sue about that. There are a few hundred thousands of dead in the US because he lied about the virus,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensherman View Post
    not sue about that. There are a few hundred thousands of dead in the US because he lied about the virus,
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    "Anonymous bad actors offered up junk science. Online skeptics made bogus accusations that hospitals padded their coronavirus case numbers to generate bonus payments. Influential TV and radio opinion hosts told millions of viewers that physical distancing was a joke and that states had all of the personal protective equipment they needed (when they didn’t).

    It was a symphony of counter-narrative, and Trump was the conductor, if not the composer. The message: The threat to your health was overhyped to hurt the political fortunes of the president."

    https://khn.org/news/article/lie-of-...e-coronavirus/


    Trump was also the victim of Covid lies and conspiracy theories from the left over his own infection with the virus.

    Harder to pin murder on Trump and the ****less than it is on one man with the final say on bombing a foreign country.

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    In case anyone has any lingering doubts about the lunacy and Trump's part in it have a look
    https://dailysoundandfury.com/the-pr...olve-congress/

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    I imagine the list of lawsuits and charges against the petulant buffoon is almost endless.

    I'd wager we haven't heard half of it yet.

    His part in the attack on the Capitol is obvious to anybody but the most ardent Cheeto lover, MAGAt or Q-Anon simpleton. He's absolutely no use now to Putin and his acolytes. The GOP might be waiting to see how the wind blows, but to a man they'll turn on him like a rabid dog before long. So he's on his own.

    I've no doubt he has tangerine dreams of bringing down the government and installing himself as King of America (World King?), but without the trappings of the office and only a few gullible fools supporting him, I'm certain he'll be schooled in exactly how a real President works. 'Sleepy' or not.

    Sure, I can see a few protests outside a few courtrooms when he's dragged in front of a judge or ten. But if I were him I'd start hoping that every non-white gang in prison suddenly starts believing in the 'Proud Boys' and David Duke.

    American politics might have (thankfully) got a lot more dull, but the American justice system is going to entertain us all for a while.

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