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Originally Posted by silver fox
Where was the faked evidence? The only way any of the evidence can be declared fake, is by those in denial of the reality, he was never our President (we can be thankful for small mercies) but he was a threat to any semblance of democracy, there are more than enough totalitarian, autocratic type leaders/governments without the USA going down that sink hole.
Anyway the legal process appears to be swinging into action, let’s see how he fares, the cultists will still cry foul, but hopefully most will see him for what he is.
Due to boredom and illness I watched the lot
There was faked and selectively edited footage that wouldn't have been allowed in a court.
He certainly wasn't guilty but attracted some monumental crazies straight from their foil lined bunkers.
He wasn't responsible for the casual security
That allowed the ingress.
Just note how the "fight" incitement has gone from the discussion when the 11 minute video was played of all the democrat members using the same language.
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Originally Posted by local
Due to boredom and illness I watched the lot
There was faked and selectively edited footage that wouldn't have been allowed in a court.
He certainly wasn't guilty but attracted some monumental crazies straight from their foil lined bunkers.
He wasn't responsible for the casual security
That allowed the ingress.
Just note how the "fight" incitement has gone from the discussion when the 11 minute video was played of all the democrat members using the same language.
ALL the Democratic footage was taken totally out of context and you know it, you also know very well that the Jan6th riot was the culmination of weeks of lies, exhortation and appeals to the crazies to be there and be ready for action, so many of his idiot followers have stated clearly they were just waiting for the word from him, plus of course why were all the cult followers there in the first place, maybe because Trump told them to be there, what did he say during his "invite", "it will be wild", don't think he was discussing the weather, do you?
Trump explored every possible legal avenue to overturn the election, that very quickly failed, then he set out to delay, to get other officials to act illegally, to perpetuate the BIG lie to the suckers, telling them to act now.
The guy deserves nothing but jail time, whether that will happen we will have to wait, but his corrupt tentacles are far reaching, just how far will be the deciding factor.
No I don't have an orange mist, just have no time for those who think they can bully their way without hindrance.
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When I see these divots chanting "USA, USA" do you think they have any idea that the man they are following is undermining their democracy, encouraging civil war, and has been responsible for more US deaths than WW2?
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Originally Posted by bensherman
When I see these divots chanting "USA, USA" do you think they have any idea that the man they are following is undermining their democracy, encouraging civil war, and has been responsible for more US deaths than WW2?
Equally the buffoons don't even realise that their "great" leader will be conspicuous by his absence as soon as possible.
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Unfortunately Nancy's poor thinking has kept him from the golf club and very much in the media.
For those of us who can be objective it has been an interesting time politically.
I genuinely thought he would fade away until this ill- considered political trial came about.
Now I am not so sure as so much nonsense came out which bolstered his claims.
Trump still makes the news like no other why people get so obsessed about him puzzles me in a world full of terrible leaders doing terrible things he is very much down the list of people who should be being called out.
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Originally Posted by local
Unfortunately Nancy's poor thinking has kept him from the golf club and very much in the media.
For those of us who can be objective it has been an interesting time politically.
You have a definition of "objective" I have not encountered before
I genuinely thought he would fade away until this ill- considered political trial came about.
Now I am not so sure as so much nonsense came out which bolstered his claims.
Trump still makes the news like no other why people get so obsessed about him puzzles me in a world full of terrible leaders doing terrible things he is very much down the list of people who should be being called out.
Nothing came out which "bolstered his claims".
If Congress had done nothing it would have been condoning anyone who wanted to trying to overthrow through violence the results of a democratic election.
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"…Many Republican voters supported Trump in 2016 and 2020 not out of particular policy affinities but because they saw him as someone who would actually fight for their vision of American culture, doing whatever it took to win. Trump’s frantic attempt to overturn the election didn’t work, but it was just the sort of furious effort his supporters wanted. Why would they object now?"
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Originally Posted by bensherman
Nothing came out which "bolstered his claims".
If Congress had done nothing it would have been condoning anyone who wanted to trying to overthrow through violence the results of a democratic election.
If you believe he and his supporters tried to overcome the result of a democratic election through violence what was the plan ?
Why didn't the crazies barricade themselves in?
Burn the place down?
Or do you think Trump directed them to doss around taking selfies then go home?
Were well in the silly season with this.
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Originally Posted by local
If you believe he and his supporters tried to overcome the result of a democratic election through violence what was the plan ?
Why didn't the crazies barricade themselves in?
Burn the place down?
Or do you think Trump directed them to doss around taking selfies then go home?
Were well in the silly season with this.
Certainly well into the silly season, sure the mob thought they could disrupt the process, their methods were hopeless, but the intent was definitely there.
Just to add, it has now been established that the ring leaders were funded by the Trump campaign funding, some of those arrested being on the Trump payroll, must add hit the like button by mistake.
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Originally Posted by silver fox
Certainly well into the silly season, sure the mob thought they could disrupt the process, their methods were hopeless, but the intent was definitely there.
Just to add, it has now been established that the ring leaders were funded by the Trump campaign funding, some of those arrested being on the Trump payroll, must add hit the like button by mistake.
I think you might have added 2+2 to make nine with that.
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Originally Posted by local
I think you might have added 2+2 to make nine with that.
Haven’t added anything, only mistake was picking up my phone without putting my specs on.
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I reckon nooses, zip ties, bullet proof vests, and actual murder is pretty clear intent.
Might have been a ramshackle bunch of idiots in the majority, but the forum messages and posts that have come to light after the event shows they went to the Capitol with purpose, at the bidding of Trump.
While I agree that Trump is totally lacking the intelligence of a NiccolĂ² Machiavelli, more a ham-fisted thug, it doesn't take much to incite an already brainwashed mob.
As always, the truth will out. Eventually. While there probably isn't a good deal of enthusiasm for prosecuting an ex-President, it isn't a good message to say he's above the law.
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So there I am bat crazy and heading for congress nooses and cable ties at the ready.
Best combat gear all bulled up.I
Trumps ramblings in my ears.
So in I went and err................ what ?
Perhaps I didn't get the e-mail or the secret coded message so I grabbed myself a selfie and a nameplate as a souvenir and went home, up the revolution!
Oh damn I forgot to tie anyone up and hang them.
The orange mist is still clouding the thinking I see.
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Originally Posted by local
So there I am bat crazy and heading for congress nooses and cable ties at the ready.
Best combat gear all bulled up.I
Trumps ramblings in my ears.
So in I went and err................ what ?
Perhaps I didn't get the e-mail or the secret coded message so I grabbed myself a selfie and a nameplate as a souvenir and went home, up the revolution!
Oh damn I forgot to tie anyone up and hang them.
The orange mist is still clouding the thinking I see.
They didn’t tie any one up or hang them, because they didn’t get to their targets, accepting that Trumpists are somewhat deficient when it comes to intelligence, I’m pretty sure their intention was not to finish up wandering around like lost sheep when plan A failed.
Plus of course when eventually reinforcements arrived, like all bullies they retreated. Your assessment of much ado about nothing doesn’t make sense, if there was no intent, why invade the place at all? They could have stayed outside waving their flags and shouting save the Confederacy, until the cows came up, but of course no-one would have taken any notice, apart from of course members of the Trump cult.
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Originally Posted by local
So there I am bat crazy and heading for congress nooses and cable ties at the ready.
Best combat gear all bulled up.I
Trumps ramblings in my ears.
So in I went and err................ what ?
Murdered a police officer.
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