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  1. Published on: 20/01/2021 11:19 AMReported by: roving-eye
    Twice in the last five years, 'exit payments' approved by Sefton Council for departing top Council bosses have amounted to more than £250,000. The Sefton Labour Party wants to bring back these 'big bucks' pay-offs.

    The 'Restriction of Public Sector Exit Payments Regulations 2020' brought in a £95,000 cap on exit payments for Council employees.

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/.../contents/made

    But the Labour councillors controlling Sefton Council think that top bosses in the local authority who are no longer needed should be allowed to receive hundreds of thousands more in final pay-offs - as has happened in the past.

    So, Labour councillors have put down a motion for debate at Thursday's virtual council meeting, calling on the Cabinet to seek this limit being lifted - but, peculiarly, they want this to happen only if there is a future Labour government.
     






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  3. ECHOEONE says:20/01/2021 12:47 PM
    Most people would be content with a £95k redundancy payment as fair and reasonable. You'd think there was a magic money tree. Shows how out of touch they are when the country is borrowing massive sums already to prop up the economy whilst fighting Covid.

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  5. justbecause says:20/01/2021 01:28 PM
    Surprise surprise, Politicians with their noses in the trough yet again.

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  7. local says:20/01/2021 02:55 PM
    I think there may be a bit of bias in this story and I would hold my thinking until it all comes out in the wash.

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  9. salus.populi says:20/01/2021 03:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I think there may be a bit of bias in this story and I would hold my thinking until it all comes out in the wash.
    I think we can be sure that the words in the articles aren't those of "roving-eye".
    It's just a question of which Lib Dem councillor really wrote them.

  10. local says:20/01/2021 06:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by salus.populi View Post
    I think we can be sure that the words in the articles aren't those of "roving-eye".
    It's just a question of which Lib Dem councillor really wrote them.


    Can't possibly have a lecture from an anti-democracy party.

  11. sandGroundZero says:20/01/2021 07:26 PM
    I note the link embedded in this item is to
    Circumspection is called for, here. I would like to see some specific detail before taking this at face.

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  13. Username2016 says:20/01/2021 07:46 PM
    I don’t know what’s worse, councillors looking to stir up trouble at our expense before a meeting or not being able to read a document as if they’d given the right link so people can make mind up (pg 47-50):

    https://modgov.sefton.gov.uk/documen...uncil.pdf?T=10

    you’d see it’s considerations to new local government policy and that in the report as it’s not asking to lift the limit, it’s stating the recommendation if any cases are to be considered per the guidance as what employers “could do”.

    Recommendations18. When, the above matters have been finalised, the Pay Policy will be updated accordingly and, as previously agreed at the Council meeting on 25th January 2018, it is recommended that the Pay and Grading Committee is delegated to deal with any necessary amendment to bring the Authority into compliance with these statutory measures.
    19. It is also recommended that is any cases were a Discretionary waiver is being considered that such matters be referred to the Pay and Grading Committee for approval and subject to Full Council approval.
    is hardly in line with the stirred up story by most likely a councillor looking to split the council to likely a detrimental effect for the wider elective.
    Last edited by Username2016; 20/01/2021 at 08:02 PM.

  14. SalusPopuli says:22/01/2021 12:23 PM
    You seem to have missed the key part, Username.

    Specifically where it says:

    (iv) in the event of a future Labour Government the Council be recommended to write
    to the Government requesting that the Restriction of Public Sector Exit Payments
    Regulations 2020 be repealed.

    The article says "The Sefton Labour Party wants to bring back these 'big bucks' pay-offs". I'd say that was the truth, always assuming that the highly political paragraph (iv) was written by the Labour Party (difficult to imagine who else).

    When you complain about people "not being able to read a document" does that mean you?

  15. Username2016 says:22/01/2021 01:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SalusPopuli View Post
    You seem to have missed the key part, Username.

    Specifically where it says:
    (iv) in the event of a future Labour Government the Council be recommended to write
    to the Government requesting that the Restriction of Public Sector Exit Payments
    Regulations 2020 be repealed.

    The article says "The Sefton Labour Party wants to bring back these 'big bucks' pay-offs". I'd say that was the truth, always assuming that the highly political paragraph (iv) was written by the Labour Party (difficult to imagine who else).

    When you complain about people "not being able to read a document" does that mean you?
    maybe, but what page are you looking at as the page I referred to (the agenda reports pack for referenced meeting”, around page 50 does not have an “iv”, may have missed it but can’t read what i can’t see.

  16. SalusPopuli says:22/01/2021 02:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Username2016 View Post
    maybe, but what page are you looking at as the page I referred to (the agenda reports pack for referenced meeting”, around page 50 does not have an “iv”, may have missed it but can’t read what i can’t see.
    Here's the link: https://modgov.sefton.gov.uk/documen...ouncil.pdf?T=9 (Page 131)

    Were you looking somewhere else?

  17. Username2016 says:22/01/2021 02:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SalusPopuli View Post
    Here's the link: https://modgov.sefton.gov.uk/documen...ouncil.pdf?T=9 (Page 131)

    Were you looking somewhere else?
    yes, original link in my comment:

    https://modgov.sefton.gov.uk/documen...uncil.pdf?T=10

    page 45

  18. SalusPopuli says:22/01/2021 02:59 PM
    So you didn't look everywhere you should have.

    Always a good idea before accusing others of "not being able to read a document".

  19. salus.populi says:22/01/2021 04:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SalusPopuli View Post
    So you didn't look everywhere you should have.

    Always a good idea before accusing others of "not being able to read a document".
    It appears that I have a namesake.

  20. Username2016 says:22/01/2021 05:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by SalusPopuli View Post
    So you didn't look everywhere you should have.

    Always a good idea before accusing others of "not being able to read a document".
    there’s a difference between a document and every document, also regardless of which document, if you read the whole thing it’s not about the “top bosses” but guess it’s all just divisive fodder.


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