One way streets...

[bensherman]

I know they have been controversial but a number of streets have now become one-way .

I live on the Aughton Road end of Talbot Street and overall think it has calmed the traffic.

Well for most people.

In the last week I have seen three vehicles ignore the no entry sign, and one in the last hour go through at let's say certainly in excess of 20mph

[The PNP]

Symptomatic of todays society......As we've seen with the Covid situation, those who disagree with rules are simply breaking them.

[The PNP]

If you keep closing off the artery roads, there will be no free flow of traffic and all they are doing is shifting the problems over to adjoining areas.

That road, amongst others, is used by cars as a short-cut (aka a rat-run) into town.....It also happens to be the only practical solution for a North-South cycle route, hence the squabble over its tarmac.

Cars need to 'suck it up' and keep to the main roads into town, instead of defying the no-entry signage, and spoiling it for local cyclists and the streets residents.

[donkey22]

Cameras will soon sort the problem out and will be self financing.

It’s only hearsay, but a taxi driver from Southport has told me that he’s received a letter from Sefton stating that Queens Road must not be used unless it’s to drop a passenger off or pick someone up. The Police are apparently going to start enforcing the No Entry signs at that location.

[anna62]

I bet the people living on St Paul's don't agree. To get back on to Duke St you go down Belmont and then onto St Paul's - or Belmont/Part and i have noticed a vast increase in traffic. There is also parking on both sides of the road and it has become the new "rat run" as vehicles that did go down Talbot to Duke and beyond now use this run (me included) I do have reservations as to where all the traffic will go when Duke St. / Eastbank St. and South end of Lord St. become closed to through traffic? I live on Duke St. and it would be lovely to have less traffic and cleaner spaces, but where will the traffic go?

[salus.populi]

I do have reservations as to where all the traffic will go when Duke St. / Eastbank St. and South end of Lord St. become closed to through traffic?

There's no such proposal.

[silver fox]

That road, amongst others, is used by cars as a short-cut (aka a rat-run) into town.....It also happens to be the only practical solution for a North-South cycle route, hence the squabble over its tarmac.

Cars need to 'suck it up' and keep to the main roads into town, instead of defying the no-entry signage, and spoiling it for local cyclists and the streets residents.

Hang on there are main roads acquiring these cycle lanes, I notice many of the bollards seem to have vanished from Hoghton St, official or not?

[said]

Hang on there are main roads acquiring these cycle lanes, I notice many of the bollards seem to have vanished from Hoghton St, official or not?

I have no idea if it is official - but many missing bollards do coincide with access areas for the businesses. It would be quite amusing to think that the business owners themselves removed them - there are a number of solicitors down that road.

[The PNP]

Hang on there are main roads acquiring these cycle lanes, I notice many of the bollards seem to have vanished from Hoghton St, official or not?

Talbot St is hardly a main road....Not in the same league as say, L'pool Rd, Lord St or PNR. You may find cycle-lanes on main roads, but those roads are shared, none to date are 'closed' to motor traffic.

I expected the bollards would be 'vandalised', having seen the exactly the same happen to identical bollards on the one-way system in Lancaster last Autumn.

[said]

That road, amongst others, is used by cars as a short-cut (aka a rat-run) into town.....It also happens to be the only practical solution for a North-South cycle route, hence the squabble over its tarmac.

Cars need to 'suck it up' and keep to the main roads into town, instead of defying the no-entry signage, and spoiling it for local cyclists and the streets residents.

Being quite honest - it is far easier cycling into and around town than it is to drive if you live fairly local - and it has been for a number of years. However, the cycle lanes do actually impede cycling for a number of reasons.
Cycle lanes are in the gutter/drain areas of a road - after heavy rain it is impossible to see where the rough tarmac areas are which could skew the wheel of a bike. Rainwater is deeper towards the gutter, drains etc., cannot be seen, and if the road is busy it is difficult to signal a change of lane in time to move out, meaning you have to stop and stand down in a deep puddle to wait for an opening. Many drains have been inserted parallel to the road - narrow wheels can get trapped if these drains go unnoticed. Or there may be a vehicle unloading at the side of the road - again, you have to change lanes. Another event which is common, is when vehicles are unloading on a street with a cycle path and a pedestrian needs to cross a road. The pedestrian steps out into the cycle lane to view the traffic situation without considering cyclists.
I would much sooner that there were no cycle lanes allowing me to position my path in accordance with the road conditions at that time, and which would allow any driver to understand what a cyclist is doing. Cycle lanes are far more dangerous for young rider's to negotiate too. In town cycle routes are more of a hazard than a boon. But outside of town, cycle lanes are a huge benefit where the traffic is faster flowing, i.e. by the side of dual carriageways etc.,

[The PNP]

A) Being quite honest - it is far easier cycling into and around town than it is to drive if you live fairly local - and it has been for a number of years.

B) However, the cycle lanes do actually impede cycling for a number of reasons.

A) Agree completely, I've been saying same for many years.....You can park a bike right on the doorstep of any shop. Which is not only more convenient (no struggling to carry goods back to the car) but also avoids the costs and perils of Pay and Display.

B) Depends on the cycle-lane in question. Some work well, others less so. E.g. you can't argue with the excellent new two-way cycle route right down the centre of Chapel St. After years of riders being regularly fined for trying to pass through, it's a real pleasure to be able to do it guilt-free!

[Little Londoner]

From Belmont St to Aughton Rd it is Hollybrook Rd not Talbot St

[justbecause]

A) Agree completely, I've been saying same for many years.....You can park a bike right on the doorstep of any shop. Which is not only more convenient (no struggling to carry goods back to the car) but also avoids the costs and perils of Pay and Display.

B) Depends on the cycle-lane in question. Some work well, others less so. E.g. you can't argue with the excellent new two-way cycle route right down the centre of Chapel St. After years of riders being regularly fined for trying to pass through, it's a real pleasure to be able to do it guilt-free!

So let me get this right, no struggling to carry goods back to the car, but it wouldn’t be a struggle to get these same goods home on the handlebars or panniers of a bicycle. You really do talk some sh*te.

[anna62]

There's no such proposal.

Oh yes there is. The notices are pinned to lamp posts in area and i have filled in a questionnaire!!

[justbecause]

There's no such proposal.

The Politburo Bureau in Bootle don’t do proposals, they do impositions.