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Why are we snow-free
I imagine that this topic has been discussed in the past, but can anyone explain to me in simple terms why Southport doesn't get any snow worth speaking about when all around us seems to be getting theirs?
It can be snowing in Preston, Liverpool, or even Ormskirk, but all we get are the little flurries now and again. (Apart from the odd freak downpour every ten years or so).
If the powers-that-be ever wanted to build a snow-free airport, Southport with its flat surrounding landscape and moderate climate would be an excellent choice !
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Don't complain I think it is the salt in the air off the sea
What have you done it is snowing now in Churchtown
Last edited by Chris R; 09/02/2021 at 01:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by Chris R
Don't complain I think it is the salt in the air off the sea
I'm not complaining Chris - I hate travelling in the snow and ice as much as anyone, but I am curious as to why we seem to be exempt. Not sure about the salty air as Blackpool gets a fair bit of snow and they are in the same position.
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It's a combination of meteorology and geography.. the climate of land adjacent to a large body of sea water (lower freezing point) is modified by both the body of water and air blowing across it. Also, the land here is flat, as has been observed, so the air stays relatively warm, thus has the ability to hold more moisture. Prevailing winds are from the west and so don't rise until further inland as the height above sea level increases. Rising air cools and precipitation can therefore occur. IIRC when we had snow that lingered for 2 weeks a couple of years ago the direction of wind was from the east.
Having said that, it's just started snowing here!
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Originally Posted by Blackrock
I'm not complaining Chris - I hate travelling in the snow and ice as much as anyone, but I am curious as to why we seem to be exempt. Not sure about the salty air as Blackpool gets a fair bit of snow and they are in the same position.
Moderating effect of the sea. https://science.jrank.org/pages/4826...an-waters.html
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The prevailing winds that bring our weather in the main come from a warmer place.
When they swap to the east it dumps there first.
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Originally Posted by local
The prevailing winds that bring our weather in the main come from a warmer place.
When they swap to the east it dumps there first.
Southport 2010
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Localised global warming :-)
The higher proportion of elderly residents have turned their heating up, and many other houses have log burners :-)
Thus Southport has a 'warm air' area over it, sounds daft I know but here is a valid example.
Around Ainsdale Station, the trees there are used as roosting for a large number of crows, why there though ?
Simple, the car traffic stationary at the crossings, number of people using the train, plus heat generated from the train, actually makes the air around there warmer, providing a nice roosting area.
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Originally Posted by *concerned*
Localised global warming :-)
The higher proportion of elderly residents have turned their heating up, and many other houses have log burners :-)
Thus Southport has a 'warm air' area over it, sounds daft I know but here is a valid example.
Around Ainsdale Station, the trees there are used as roosting for a large number of crows, why there though ?
Simple, the car traffic stationary at the crossings, number of people using the train, plus heat generated from the train, actually makes the air around there warmer, providing a nice roosting area.
Apparently, that's what the police look for, when hunting indoor hash plantations....Rows of birds sat on a particular roof, warming their toes!
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Originally Posted by joan ofarc
It's a combination of meteorology and geography.. the climate of land adjacent to a large body of sea water (lower freezing point) is modified by both the body of water and air blowing across it. Also, the land here is flat, as has been observed, so the air stays relatively warm, thus has the ability to hold more moisture. Prevailing winds are from the west and so don't rise until further inland as the height above sea level increases. Rising air cools and precipitation can therefore occur. IIRC when we had snow that lingered for 2 weeks a couple of years ago the direction of wind was from the east.
Having said that, it's just started snowing here!
It was snowing on Monday and Tuesday. On Monday it was bitterly cold on the beach, but warmer in the town. That was because there was a Northerly wind blowing across the open sea, which is then blocked by the buildings in town. On Tuesday, it was not cold either on the beach or around the town as there was no Northerly wind.
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Is there anyone else on here who remembers the sea freezing in Southport in 1947? I do. Although I was only a young sprog making slides on the playground ice at St John's Primary in Ainsdale, at the time. Happy days!!!
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Originally Posted by Nick2
Is there anyone else on here who remembers the sea freezing in Southport in 1947? I do. Although I was only a young sprog making slides on the playground ice at St John's Primary in Ainsdale, at the time. Happy days!!!
I remember the beach freezing in '63. The sand was rock-hard and there were blocks of frozen sea all along the tideline...brrrrrr!
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