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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    You only need a few carriers to bring any infection to an area, particularly one which has proved to be readily transmitted.
    Given that India has around 20% of the world's population in India, and considerable numbers elsewhere, and that they have a small number of super rich and a mass of impoverished. then the virus cannot be stopped unless the rest of the world acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    Given that India has around 20% of the world's population in India, and considerable numbers elsewhere, and that they have a small number of super rich and a mass of impoverished. then the virus cannot be stopped unless the rest of the world acts.
    Very true, until the entire world has been vaccinated, the virus will continue to be a hazard, but help must not include importing and spreading infection.

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    In Bolton Covid positive cases in children tripled in a week.

    The rise in cases is not due to testing-that has risen rapidly.

    Cases do match lowest areas of vaccination uptake.
    So far the rise in cases has not affected the figures in the older age group.

    It is worrying as the last spike in cases started in younger age group spread upwards.
    This time it will be a younger adult age group most vulnerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    I assumed you meant people not born in the UK otherwise deporting is very difficult.
    Yes, even with dual nationally it is difficult to deport, dropping them off half might be a solution! ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    In Bolton Covid positive cases in children tripled in a week.

    The rise in cases is not due to testing-that has risen rapidly.

    Cases do match lowest areas of vaccination uptake.
    So far the rise in cases has not affected the figures in the older age group.

    It is worrying as the last spike in cases started in younger age group spread upwards.
    This time it will be a younger adult age group most vulnerable.
    Over here in the civilised bit it seems that it centred on 3 schools (1 primary 2 secondary) in Formby, quite a few kids from Ainsdale which is affected go to the secondary schools in Formby. Cases have also risen in Marshside surprisingly but that could be linked to the outbreak at Runshaw College Leyland where quite a few kids get bused to but the surrounding area of Leyland doesn't seem overly affected, perhaps they spread it on the the bus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    Over here in the civilised bit it seems that it centred on 3 schools (1 primary 2 secondary) in Formby, quite a few kids from Ainsdale which is affected go to the secondary schools in Formby. Cases have also risen in Marshside surprisingly but that could be linked to the outbreak at Runshaw College Leyland where quite a few kids get bused to but the surrounding area of Leyland doesn't seem overly affected, perhaps they spread it on the the bus!
    I am wondering if infections are amplified in towns with large Furthur Education college communities.
    Teenagers travel from all over the area to a central place.

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    Flights still arriving from India.

    Not a great idea, I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    I am wondering if infections are amplified in towns with large Furthur Education college communities.
    Teenagers travel from all over the area to a central place.
    On crowded buses, several go from Southport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    On crowded buses, several go from Southport.
    Which is the college of favour outside of Southport?

    Bury has 2 large colleges.
    Bolton has a 'campus'.

    Whilst great for education they are unique in having age groups 16-18 who
    mostly likely (also) have younger siblings and live at home with (more) at risk parents.

    They also have the most freedom of movement than any other age group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    Flights still arriving from India.

    Not a great idea, I'd say.
    Heathrow alone receives over 30 flights per week, if only 350 passengers were on each flight that amounts to over 10,000 per week not counting other airports and indirect journies, it was known from early April that the virus was rife in India so how many have entered unrestricted, If they had had to quarantine in a hotel many cases would have been stopped so the many asymptomatic infected wouldn't have been wandering round Blackburn, Bolton & Luton passing it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    Why oh why oh why is Said so clearly capable of some sense from time to time, so silly sometimes!

    I live in the Arabian Gulf and as it heats up Covid is causing havoc and increasing.

    Well, politically speaking the event needs to be widely publicised. There is a very low uptake of vaccinations among the population, the people
    are not convinced - but publicity must prevail for there is huge potential on offer over there. By the way - my information was obtained from the BMJ, not the newspapers.

    The UAE has not been affected as much as the Western areas it is claimed - the colder months more humid months are Dec - Feb, when numbers were said to be high, after February the numbers dropped considerably, we are informed. Here in the UK - those most affected by this virus, it is claimed, are those who have no or little immunity build up for it - i.e. those from the warmer, less humid climes.

    Both issues cannot be correct,unless you work for the media.
    Last edited by said; 18/05/2021 at 11:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Well, politically speaking the event needs to be widely publicised. There is a very low uptake of vaccinations among the population, the people
    are not convinced - but publicity must prevail for there is huge potential on offer over there. By the way - my information was obtained from the BMJ, not the newspapers.

    The UAE has not been affected as much as the Western areas it is claimed - the colder months more humid months are Dec - Feb, when numbers were said to be high, after February the numbers dropped considerably, we are informed. Here in the UK - those most affected by this virus, it is claimed, are those who have no or little immunity build up for it - i.e. those from the warmer, less humid climes.

    Both issues cannot be correct,unless you work for the media.
    The UAE is an exception. Low cases are down to vaccination. Most have been vaccinated. The weather had nothing to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    We now have 3 new variants running rampant across the country, the South African, Brazilian and now the Indian strict quarantine measures have been introduced to prevent these variants entering so how come non of these have been picked up?

    Variants do not just walk in. A virus mutates by accidental 'slips' when it reproduces. If these mutations become the norm, they become a variant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    The UAE is an exception. Low cases are down to vaccination. Most have been vaccinated. The weather had nothing to do with it.

    OK! You know best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    Heathrow alone receives over 30 flights per week, if only 350 passengers were on each flight that amounts to over 10,000 per week not counting other airports and indirect journies, it was known from early April that the virus was rife in India so how many have entered unrestricted, If they had had to quarantine in a hotel many cases would have been stopped so the many asymptomatic infected wouldn't have been wandering round Blackburn, Bolton & Luton passing it on.
    This is why we've the highest number of cases of the India variant outside India itself.

    Some hospitals in India are reporting that over half of their Covid patients are under 40. And as H pointed out, the cases are rising among kids here.

    My 4 year old grandson had to have a Covid test this morning. It hit home that this is not a virus that only attacks the elderly and vulnerable. Very worrying.

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