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Originally Posted by donkey22
You really need to start proof reading your own posts before clicking done.
Your post makes no sense at all, plus your grammar is dreadful.
You silly ***!
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Originally Posted by fanzone1
But having cars parked on pavements should be a definite no, roads are for cars not pavements. I have even seen loads today on pavements, some I had to go into the road to pass them, It’s annoying, not very wheelchair friendly is it.
Having cars parked along narrow roads is not patient friendly either. Emergency services would not be able to get down blocked roads. It is not a motorists fault - the council are very quick to sell off land to housing projects - but ignore necessary facilities for the local people who pay Council Taxes. There should be more land made available for car parking.
The Council have allowed more than a hundred second hand car dealers to set up very close to town that take up huge amounts of brown fill land and allow them to park their excess vehicles + staff vehicles on residential roads. Surely it would be far more beneficial for all these dealers/car repair people to set up a specific market out at Kew where there is far more space for themselves and their customers. This would also free up car parking areas in and close to town. The pavement parking issue would disappear overnight.
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Originally Posted by fanzone1
From your opinion then, let’s have cars take up public footpaths, that’s the problem with this town, no one cares anymore.
There is some wide roads in Southport and cars still park on the pavement, why should we get used to it, wheelchair uses and parents with prams shouldn’t be going on the road to pass parked cars on the pavements.
You are wrong! People do care about this issue. Where cars are parked on pavements outside of shops, it should be absolutely illegal because these are very public places and I have seen very young children on the path, passing behind a parked vehicle when it is reversing and the driver has been unaware of the child who could not be seen due to the height of the car.
Cars have been prevented from parking outside schools - again I totally agree. People who are disabled should really not be driving and if they cannot walk a few yards from and to other streets - then they must have some disability.
But on the other side of the argument, Councils are not providing enough spaces for car drivers to use. There should be far more car parks, ideally one on every street. Even new housing projects are being built with the same Victorian width roads, and insufficient parking facilities.
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Originally Posted by said
A) Cars have been prevented from parking outside schools - again I totally agree. People who are disabled should really not be driving and if they cannot walk a few yards from and to other streets - then they must have some disability.
B) But on the other side of the argument, Councils are not providing enough spaces for car drivers to use. There should be far more car parks, ideally one on every street. Even new housing projects are being built with the same Victorian width roads, and insufficient parking facilities.
A) There are a few disabled parents, with mobility issues.....But for every one of those, there's probably ten able-bodied who could walk miles if they wanted - but are too lazy to even park around the corner!
B) New houses usually have pre-tarmacked front gardens, able to accommodate a car or two. Problem nowadays, is every family member often has their own car. Which means three or four cars (total 12 to 16 seats) per house.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
A) There are a few disabled parents, with mobility issues.....But for every one of those, there's probably ten able-bodied who could walk miles if they wanted - but are too lazy to even park around the corner!
B) New houses usually have pre-tarmacked front gardens, able to accommodate a car or two. Problem nowadays, is every family member often has their own car. Which means three or four cars (total 12 to 16 seats) per house.
Not only do new build houses have multiple cars, most houses do properties where is no parking provision at all due to the age.
Another issue I've noticed recently, I walk past the new builds being built near the hospital. Most have a garage, but the the cars being parked don't fit in them, is there a standard for how big a garage should be, if an average car doesn't fit in it then needs to be updated for modern cars, not a model T.
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As kippax posted, it's perfectly possible to accommodate pedestrians and parked cars. The picture illustrates just this. The pavements have been strengthened like this along Ash Street and St Luke's up to Roe Lane but still some idiots refuse to put two wheels onto them and - cause obstructions.
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The Japanese have it well sorted......To buy a car, you must first prove that you have an off-road space in which to keep it!
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The corner of Shakespeare Street opposite what used to be Boots chemist is awful for cars on the pavement, I’ve had to go on the road a few times to pass them.
This does seem to be a problem for Southport, and another thing should cars be allowed into a cemetery ?.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
The Japanese have it well sorted......To buy a car, you must first prove that you have an off-road space in which to keep it!
many houses have front doors that open directly onto the footpath, so no chance of “off road” parking, then you have tower blocks and flats / apartments some of which don’t have allocated parking spaces.
So that wouldn’t work over here, you’d have some serious resistance, especially from people who need their cars because of disability or essential workers.
Off subject but this is one of the reasons why all electric vehicles aren’t feasible.
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Originally Posted by Kippax
many houses have front doors that open directly onto the footpath, so no chance of “off road” parking, then you have tower blocks and flats / apartments some of which don’t have allocated parking spaces.
So that wouldn’t work over here, you’d have some serious resistance, especially from people who need their cars because of disability or essential workers.
Off subject but this is one of the reasons why all electric vehicles aren’t feasible.
Simple solution don't buy a vehicle if you don't have parking, if they couldn't sell the properties without parking they would soon stop building them.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
Simple solution don't buy a vehicle if you don't have parking, if they couldn't sell the properties without parking they would soon stop building them.
Moving forward, that could be a possibility but doesn’t help those who have already purchased a property without allocated parking.
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Originally Posted by Kippax
Moving forward, that could be a possibility but doesn’t help those who have already purchased a property without allocated parking.
I know things alter over time but it one of the things you have to consider before purchasing.
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Originally Posted by Kippax
many houses have front doors that open directly onto the footpath, so no chance of “off road” parking, then you have tower blocks and flats / apartments some of which don’t have allocated parking spaces.
So that wouldn’t work over here, you’d have some serious resistance, especially from people who need their cars because of disability or essential workers.
Off subject but this is one of the reasons why all electric vehicles aren’t feasible.
Also, many of the new builds do not allow trade vans to park outside premises - so if the resident is a tradesperson with a van - it is tough.
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Originally Posted by said
Also, many of the new builds do not allow trade vans to park outside premises - so if the resident is a tradesperson with a van - it is tough.
there’s an estate near my daughters and that’s the case, also no parking on the road, so if you have visitors they have to park off the estate.
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The considerate people who leave their cars so that other vehicles can still use the streets sound a lot more conscientious than those who don't consider the overall effect of keeping all cars off any parts of pavements.
Selfishly expecting all parts of a pavement to be kept for the odd pedestrian is symptomatic of the me me me generation that does not think of the general good.
It's appalling but not unexpected these days.
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