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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    I can only imagine how hard it is for your average Palestinian to use the Israeli court system.

    Even if a case goes their way you can imagine the government making swift changes.
    You obviously are not well informed about Israel’s law system.

    There are Israeli Arab judges in the Israel High Court.
    Israeli Arabs are working in every aspect of employment.
    Many Arab Doctors taking some of the highest appointments.
    Head of one of the Northern Hospitals is an Israeli Arab.

    Sorry to disappoint you local.


    Shippy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    Where in my post did I make such a statement?
    One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

    Which man are you?

    Did you support the IRA too, there was a woman on the News the other day in Northern Ireland, after some Soldiers were cleared of murder, screaming that the soldiers were cowards.

    Apart from some SAS and Intelligence Corps all soldiers were in uniform ( which is a bit of a give away that these "cowards" were soldiers) I don't recall the IRA having a uniform except on "Ceremonial" ie funerals. In Israel the soldiers are in Uniform easy targets for plain clothed terrorists. Like Hamas these terrorist organisations want it all their own way are they bothered about how many innocent people are killed by them NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    you obviously are not well informed about israel’s law system.

    There are israeli arab judges in the israel high court.
    Israeli arabs are working in every aspect of employment.
    Many arab doctors taking some of the highest appointments.
    Head of one of the northern hospitals is an israeli arab.

    Sorry to disappoint you local.


    Shippy.
    puppets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alikado View Post
    puppets.
    Evidence to support your assertion?
    Orwell said "If there is hope, it lies in the proles." Whilst champagne socialists see diversity idealised at university, the common folk experience it first hand in their neighbour hoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

    Which man are you?

    Did you support the IRA too, there was a woman on the News the other day in Northern Ireland, after some Soldiers were cleared of murder, screaming that the soldiers were cowards.

    Apart from some SAS and Intelligence Corps all soldiers were in uniform ( which is a bit of a give away that these "cowards" were soldiers) I don't recall the IRA having a uniform except on "Ceremonial" ie funerals. In Israel the soldiers are in Uniform easy targets for plain clothed terrorists. Like Hamas these terrorist organisations want it all their own way are they bothered about how many innocent people are killed by them NO!
    If you’d actually bothered to follow reading all the posts in this thread you’d have read that I’ve already answered your question, and that the commonly used slogan I used was a generalisation to get a point across. My stance regarding Hamas and other terrorist groups has already been answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles McGinty View Post
    ...........While understandably Israelis need to defend themselves against Hamas rockets, there seems to be disproportionate force used on the streets - Palestinian kids throwing stones, Israeli forces answering with bullets. Why no condemnation internationally?
    As the death toll mounts on both sides, this is an interesting article. Scroll a little way down and there’s a graph showing the death toll on either side, year by year.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc...fographic/amp/
    Last edited by donkey22; 16/05/2021 at 12:35 PM.

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    Stoning to death is legal in Gaza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Londoner View Post
    One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.

    Which man are you?

    Did you support the IRA too, there was a woman on the News the other day in Northern Ireland, after some Soldiers were cleared of murder, screaming that the soldiers were cowards.

    Apart from some SAS and Intelligence Corps all soldiers were in uniform ( which is a bit of a give away that these "cowards" were soldiers) I don't recall the IRA having a uniform except on "Ceremonial" ie funerals. In Israel the soldiers are in Uniform easy targets for plain clothed terrorists. Like Hamas these terrorist organisations want it all their own way are they bothered about how many innocent people are killed by them NO!
    Hamas uses human shields.

    https://honestreporting.com/foreign-...BoCpLUQAvD_BwE

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    As the death toll mounts on both sides, this is an interesting article. Scroll a little way down and there’s a graph showing the death toll on either side, year by year.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc...fographic/amp/
    For Palestinians killed by Islamic Terrorism in Syria:

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...lled-in-syria/

    *Free Palestine from Radical Islamic Terrorism*
    Start peace talks.
    Reward peace keeping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post

    Hamas does not care one bit about the ordinary citizens of Gaza, they're only concerned with obliterating Israel at any cost.


    They (Hamas) knew damn well that they would incur this kind of retaliation from Israel, yet they continue to lob their rockets.
    Orwell said "If there is hope, it lies in the proles." Whilst champagne socialists see diversity idealised at university, the common folk experience it first hand in their neighbour hoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styx View Post
    Hamas does not care one bit about the ordinary citizens of Gaza, they're only concerned with obliterating Israel at any cost.


    They (Hamas) knew damn well that they would incur this kind of retaliation from Israel, yet they continue to lob their rockets.
    I believe that the aim of Hamas is to provoke a reaction from Israel sufficiently harsh to bring other Arab nations in to further war with Israel.

    Remember much of the population of Gaza was created when the Arab nations advised Arabs to leave Israel while Israel was destroyed at the outset, those people would then be free to return and take over the area, we all know that didn’t go according to plan, Hamas are still hoping the Arab nations will fulfil that very early promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    I believe that the aim of Hamas is to provoke a reaction from Israel sufficiently harsh to bring other Arab nations in to further war with Israel.

    Remember much of the population of Gaza was created when the Arab nations advised Arabs to leave Israel while Israel was destroyed at the outset, those people would then be free to return and take over the area, we all know that didn’t go according to plan, Hamas are still hoping the Arab nations will fulfil that very early promise.
    You could well be right regarding the intention of Hamas. But I don't think the other nations are that suicidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Styx View Post
    They (Hamas) knew damn well that they would incur this kind of retaliation from Israel, yet they continue to lob their rockets.
    Which only goes to show how ineffective Israels 'punishment' attacks on Gaza are, in stopping the rockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styx View Post
    Hamas does not care one bit about the ordinary citizens of Gaza, they're only concerned with obliterating Israel at any cost.


    They (Hamas) knew damn well that they would incur this kind of retaliation from Israel, yet they continue to lob their rockets.
    I have just watched live reporting from Israel of the emergency UN Security meeting.

    Envoy's listed all the casualties plus wider problems such as attempted incursions on Israeli borders from Jordan(prevented by Jordan) Syria (rocket(s) fell short Lebanon (protected by IDF).
    A ceasefire for humanitarian aid was called for.

    Also a plea Jerusalem to be a shared capital of Israel and (future) Palestine.

    The Palestinian envoy gave a bad representation.
    No regret at Israel deaths even the Israeli Arab ones.
    Flatly rejected any outcome other than Jerusalem as capital of (future) Palestine.

    Israeli envoy expressed regret at all civilian deaths on both sides outlined the length the IDF takes to avoid any other target that Hamas terrorists.
    Clarified details on the lead up to the escalation.

    If you can find the speech on youtube it is worth watching.

    Perhaps this time the subject of peace and security throughout the whole of Israel will get the support it urgently needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Which only goes to show how ineffective Israels 'punishment' attacks on Gaza are, in stopping the rockets.

    The object is to take Hamas weapons out of action so they cannot fire
    on Israel.

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