Middle east crisis.

[silver fox]

silver fox, your view of the history of the conflict between Zionism and the Palestinians it displaced and continues to dominate is too much influenced by the former's narrative. A useful account of the conflict from the Palestinians' [as distinct from that of the neighbouring Arab countries] perspective is Rashid Khalidi's The Hundred Years' War on Palestine. FYI the book is listed in the Liverpool library catalogue. Plus, it is available to read online.

One little problem, Palestine has not existed as a state or country for 100 years, we all know that Palestine was a name given to a much larger area when under British control, prior to that the area was controlled by the Ottoman Empire.

At the time of separation, the West Bank and Gaza were under the administrative control of Jordan and Egypt respectively, the six day war saw the territory change hands until eventually the two area we’re recognised as independent states by some but not by all.

Sure the area has been the scene for many conflicts going right back through history, mainly on religious grounds which for me is incredibly sad, all these religions claiming to be the purveyors of peace, yet dedicated to slaughtering the neighbours.

[Hamble]

Put historically.

The Ottoman Empire.
Quote wiki


"Beginning in the late 19th century, various Ottoman intellectuals sought to further liberalize society and politics along European lines, culminating in the Young Turk Revolution of 1908 led by the Committee of Union and Progress (CUP), which established the Second Constitutional Era and introduced competitive multi-party elections under a constitutional monarchy. However, following the disastrous Balkan Wars, the CUP became increasingly radicalized and nationalistic, leading a coup d'état in 1913 that established a one-party regime. The CUP allied the empire with Germany, hoping to escape from the diplomatic isolation that had contributed to its recent territorial losses; it thus joined World War I on the side of the Central Powers. While the empire was able to largely hold its own during the conflict, it struggled with internal dissent, especially the Arab Revolt. During this period, the Ottoman government engaged in genocide against Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks.

In the aftermath of World War I, the victorious Allied Powers occupied and partitioned the Ottoman Empire, which lost its southern territories to the United Kingdom and France. The successful Turkish War of Independence, led by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk against the occupying Allies, led to the emergence of the Republic of Turkey in the Anatolian heartland and the abolition of the Ottoman monarchy in 1922, formally ending the Ottoman Empire."


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Ottoman Empire/Turkish Law

"Under Ottoman rule, the inhabitants of Palestine were Ottoman subjects. Those
persons known later as ‘Palestinians’, had no particular legal status under Otto-
man rule. As such, a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ did not exist at that time. The
‘Palestinians’ constituted a sector of the larger ‘Ottoman people’.
To acquire Palestinian nationality at its first inception, one was required to hold
the status of ‘Ottoman subject’, or Ottoman citizen. Upon the entry into force of
the Treaty of Lausanne (the international instrument according to which Palestine
was legally separated from Turkey) on 24 July 1923,91 Ottomans who resided in the
territory of Palestine became ipso facto ‘Palestinian citizens’. This was domestically
confirmed by the Palestinian Citizenship Order, which was enacted by Britain in
1925.92 Hence, it is imperative to review Ottoman nationality as it forms the root
of Palestinian nationality in accordance with international law.93
2. Ottoman Nationality Law, 1869
A. General
Ottoman nationality was first codified by the Ottoman Nationality Law, enacted
on 19 January 1869 (hereinafter: ‘the 1869 Law’).

https://brill.com/display/book/97890....i-254_003.xml

[sandGroundZero]

One little problem, Palestine has not existed as a state or country for 100 years, we all know that Palestine was a name given to a much larger area when under British control, prior to that the area was controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
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Palestine was the home to countless generations of families. Throughout much of the era of the Ottoman Empire the region known as Palestine attracted only passing attention as the home of a predominantly Muslim population with an admixture of Christian and Jewish communities. Compared to Europe, Palestine appears to have enjoyed a degree of peace and stability. Christians and Jews of the region were able, under Muslim rule, to live their lives more-or-less free from persecution. It was the intrusion of European colonial powers that unsettled the region. Political Zionism inaugurated by Theodor Herzl proposed to transplant European Jews to Palestine. While it is true that small numbers of eastern European Jews from the eighteenth century onward migrated (mostly at the end of their lives) to die in Jerusalem, it was only with the advent of Zionism that migration became increasingly problematic.

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At the time of separation, the West Bank and Gaza were under the administrative control of Jordan and Egypt respectively, the six day war saw the territory change hands until eventually the two area we’re recognised as independent states by some but not by all.

Sure the area has been the scene for many conflicts going right back through history, mainly on religious grounds which for me is incredibly sad, all these religions claiming to be the purveyors of peace, yet dedicated to slaughtering the neighbours.

Contemporary strife on the grounds of religious affiliation can be attributed largely to Zionist ideology's insistence on an exclusively Jewish state which necessitated the displacement of the (mostly) Muslim inhabitants of Palestine. The Palestinians were made to suffer the consequences of European anti-Semitism through European colonial interference. You really need to study-up, if you're going to argue the history of the Israel-Palestine conflict. Read Khalidi's book!

[Hamble]

Why was The State of Israel so named?

Not Palestine.
Palestinians Arabs had already claimed the geographical name as their entitlement.

Not Judea
Most people had thought that the state would be called Judea.
But Judea is the historical name of the area around Jerusalem, which at that time itseemed the area least likely to become part of the state. Also, it applied only to a very
small territory. So Judea was ruled out.UN’s 1947 partition plan. As “Jewish” was a derivative of Judea, the name might therefore have
seemed a logical choice. But according to the partition plan, all of the traditional geographical
area of Judea was slated either to be internationalized (in the case of Jerusalem and its environs)
or to become part of the proposed Arab state.
Moreover, even if it did wind up possessing some chunk of Judea, the Jewish state would also
comprise a much larger area than that, including the coastal plan, the Galilee, and the Negev;
Besides, what would its citizens be called? Y’hudim? How would that be regarded by the state’s projected half-million
Arab citizens?

Not Zion.
Zion is the name of a hill overlooking the Old City of Jerusalem” and therefore not intended by the UN’s partition
plan to be within the borders of the proposed Jewish state.
A sovereign Jewish state-to-be, actual geography mattered; how
could such a state be called Zion when Mount Zion wasn’t going to be a part of it? And what
would a citizen of such a state be called? A Zionist? That would again be to ask a great deal of
Arab citizens, while also creating confusion with Zionists living in other Countries.

Wiki

In the early 2nd century CE, the Roman province called Judaea was renamed Syria Palaestina[a] (literally, "Palestinian Syria"), and also incorporated some other, smaler, territories.

Around the year 390, during the Byzantine period, the imperial province of Syria Palaestina was reorganized into Palaestina Prima, Palaestina Secunda and Palaestina Salutaris.
Following the Muslim conquest, place names that were in use by the Byzantine administration generally continued to be used in Arabic,[[and the Jund Filastin became one of the military districts within the Umayyad and Abbasid province of Bilad al-Sham.

The use of the name "Palestine" became common in Early Modern English, was used in English and Arabic during the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem.
The term was used widely as a self-identification by Palelestinians.

In the 20th century the name was used by the British to refer to "Mandatory Palestine," a territory from the former Ottoman Empire which had been divided in the Sykes–Picot Agreement and secured by Britain via the Mandate for Palestine obtained from the League of Nations.
Starting from 2013, the term was officially used in the eponymous "State of Palestine."


'Palestine' means Israel.

[sandGroundZero]

World News US vetoes widely supported resolution backing full UN membership for Palestine

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The United States vetoed a widely backed U.N. resolution Thursday that would have paved the way for full United Nations membership for Palestine, a goal the Palestinians have long sought and Israel has worked to prevent. The vote in the 15-member Security Council was 12 in favor, the United States opposed and two abstentions, from the United Kingdom and Switzerland. U.S. allies France, Japan and South Korea supported the resolution. The strong support the Palestinians received reflects not only the growing number of countries recognizing their statehood but almost certainly the global support for Palestinians facing a humanitarian crisis caused by the war in Gaza, now in its seventh month. … By EDITH M. LEDERER | April 19, 2024 © The Associated Press

[Hector]

Israel has now attacked Iran. Iran will have to respond and that will be more chaos than we have ever seen.