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Originally Posted by
Hamble
How on earth are Arabs going to have any influence in the Knesset with a token handful of seats?
How on earth is the Hamas Rag Tag & Bobtail force ever going to defeat the Israelis?
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Originally Posted by
local
Tell me how does your average Palestinian get his home back after Israel has taken it ?
They live in a prison camp and yes the scum have taken charge I fully accept that but who else do they turn to ?
Israel will flatten large areas and kill many people in the name of defence.
Israel has ignored many UN resolutions.
This leaves a yawning chasm for the likes of Hamas to occupy.
You want facts?
Israel is the world record holder for violating UN resolutions
As you don't need telling, Local, this is so worrying now. I don't think even God knows how this will end.
I live in the Middle East and the other day I took one of my vehicles for a bit of a scrape repair. My mechanic is a 20 something Turk. He asked me what the conflict was about. I shouldn't have been so flippant, but was I that far off the mark when I told him it was something related to Moses?
Last edited by Hector; 14/05/2021 at 09:41 AM.
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Originally Posted by
donkey22
It’s a pity you didn’t have the foresight to post a “balanced and factual and prpfessionally written” article instead of the drivel you did post.
Oh dear. And now you’ve had to resort to personal insults. An obvious sign of your lack of intelligence and insecurity. What a shame, you’ve really let yourself down.
Hector is asking you about your support for this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Palestine_Movement
You can support the Palestinian cause without supporting a terrorist organisation.
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Originally Posted by
Alikado
How on earth are Arabs going to have any influence in the Knesset with a token handful of seats?
How on earth is the Hamas Rag Tag & Bobtail force ever going to defeat the Israelis?
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There is no Arab party in the UK parliament.
You want Hamas the Radical Islamic Jihad to defeat Israel?
Remind me were you one of those against letting one radicalised girl Shamima Begum back in the UK from Syria?
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
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There is no Arab party in the UK parliament.
You want Hamas the Radical Islamic Jihad to defeat Israel?
Remind me were you one of those against letting one radicalised girl Shamima Begum back in the UK from Syria?
What is the lack of an Arab Party in UK party got to do with it, what I'm saying the tiny representation in the Knesset has practically no influence.
I never said I wanted Hamas to defeat Israel, what I was saying was that it couldn't happen, it is a David and Goliath match.
Israel are treading a fine line, one day Iran or somebody are going to press the Big Button and the whole of the Middle East will be alight.
I said that as a British citizen (her Bangladeshi Citizenship was at best tenuous) she should be allowed to have justice here.
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Originally Posted by
local
Israel creates the perfect circumstances for the scum of Hamas to flourish there is no point in the Palestinians electing a respectable and decent government they would be crushed by Israel.
Israel is intent on taking what they want when they feel like it.
Your average Palestinian has no access to Justice.
Inevitably Israel will militarily crush some of the guilty but mainly the innocent, lots and lots of the innocent.
A state that blows up scarce homes has no legitimacy.
I agree. While I have nothing but contempt for Hamas and its founding principle, I can't possibly condone forced occupation of Palestinian land and destruction of Palestinian homes. The power imbalance makes it impossible for Palestinians to seek restitution by civil means.
What use are UN resolutions when the Israeli government continues to expand illegal occupation with impunity?
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Originally Posted by
Alikado
What is the lack of an Arab Party in UK party got to do with it, what I'm saying the tiny representation in the Knesset has practically no influence.
I never said I wanted Hamas to defeat Israel, what I was saying was that it couldn't happen, it is a David and Goliath match.
Israel are treading a fine line, one day Iran or somebody are going to press the Big Button and the whole of the Middle East will be alight.
I said that as a British citizen (her Bangladeshi Citizenship was at best tenuous) she should be allowed to have justice here.
Things are getting a bit muddled.
Hamas is democratically elected in Gaza.
Gaza has autonomous rule.
The rest of Palestine has democratically elected Fatah who are not a terrorist jihads.
Israel has the knesset with political parties known for not ever gaining one political majority.
The Arab Alliance is democratically elected.
As Israeli Jews are the majority of Israel it is an understandable minority voice.
There are no Jewish equivalent representation in Palestine or Gaza.
So now you are hoping another Islamic Terrorist faction in the world will help Hamas out?
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
Things are getting a bit muddled.
Hamas is democratically elected in Gaza.
Gaza has autonomous rule.
The rest of Palestine has democratically elected Fatah who are not a terrorist jihads.
Israel has the knesset with political parties known for not ever gaining one political majority.
The Arab Alliance is democratically elected.
As Israeli Jews are the majority of Israel it is an understandable minority voice.
There are no Jewish equivalent representation in Palestine or Gaza.
So now you are hoping another Islamic Terrorist faction in the world will help Hamas out?
20% of the country are arabs, do they have 20% representation in the Knesset?
I never mentioned any terrorist factions coming to help Hamas, I said eventually Iran or somebody else will get pushed to far by the constant provocation and press the big button, there are other nuclear powers in the region.
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What hope is left for your average Palestinian youth.
The life is being squeezed out of them and their country whilst the world watches. Israel's giant foot on their neck squeezes the life out of them.
Palestinian lives don't matter.
Their just the wrong shade for the wokes it seems.
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Originally Posted by
Alikado
20% of the country are arabs, do they have 20% representation in the Knesset?
I never mentioned any terrorist factions coming to help Hamas, I said eventually Iran or somebody else will get pushed to far by the constant provocation and press the big button, there are other nuclear powers in the region.
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So which nuclear powers in the region are you thinking of?
Iran's Government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Govern...public_of_Iran
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Originally Posted by
local
What hope is left for your average Palestinian youth.
The life is being squeezed out of them and their country whilst the world watches. Israel's giant foot on their neck squeezes the life out of them.
Palestinian lives don't matter.
Their just the wrong shade for the wokes it seems.
America needs to alter its stance on Israel, they are operating under the shadow and protection and doing Americans dirty deeds by proxy.
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Originally Posted by
local
What hope is left for your average Palestinian youth.
The life is being squeezed out of them and their country whilst the world watches. Israel's giant foot on their neck squeezes the life out of them.
Palestinian lives don't matter.
Their just the wrong shade for the wokes it seems.
They certainly do not matter to Radical Islamic Jihad.
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"Washington has sent a senior diplomat - Hady Amr - to the region to speak with the Israelis and the Palestinian Authority under President Mahmoud Abbas. But not to Hamas, which is running the Palestinian offensive along with a fellow militant organisation, Islamic Jihad."
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-ga...t-war-12305186
First rule:
One cannot reason with terrorists.
If the IDF have killed Hamas terrorist leaders this should be an opening for Abbas to declare a state of emergency and lead Palestine and Gaza.
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Mass protests in Jordan now.
Seeing as 50% of Jordanians are Palestinian and the Hashemites lay claim to Palestine and the DNA of Abraham, Ismail and Mohammed, couldn't they solve it all once and for all by taking all their citizens currently in Israel who are not happy? I jest of course. I have been there but wouldn't want to live there. I have helped several to escape to somewhere much better.
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Originally Posted by
Hamble
Pakistan but not India, they'd probably bomb the neighbours 'by accident'!
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