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30/04/2024 07:56 AM
#2656
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30/04/2024 08:23 AM
#2657
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Hamble
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"Claims have been made that it would be illegal for British citizens to serve in Israeli forces, something rejected by the UK Government.
The latest confirmation came in response to a Written Parliamentary Question.
Afzal Khan Labour MP for Manchester, Gorton, asked:
“To ask the Minister of State, Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office, what guidance his Department issues to British nationals that plan to volunteer to assist the Israeli Defence Forces with the conflict in Gaza.
Andrew Mitchell, Minister of State (Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office), responded:
“FCDO travel advice provides British nationals with information on the risks of travelling or living abroad. The FCDO provides advice to British nationals on the risks of travelling to Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories. This guidance can be found on Gov.uk.
The UK recognises the right of British nationals with additional nationalities to serve in the legitimately recognised armed forces of the country of their other nationalities. The Israel Defence Force is a recognised armed force and British nationals are both able to volunteer into the Israel Defence Force and eligible for national service. For Israel, one does not have to be Israeli to serve in the Israel Defence Force.”
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-c...sraeli-forces/
All totally irrelevant he is an Israeli citizen not a British Citizen.
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30/04/2024 08:53 AM
#2658
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Alikado
All totally irrelevant he is an Israeli citizen not a British Citizen.
Have you heard of 'Dual Nationality'?
Will you demonise British nationals who enlist to fight for Ukraine?
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30/04/2024 09:12 AM
#2659
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Hamble
Have you heard of 'Dual Nationality'?
Will you demonise British nationals who enlist to fight for Ukraine?
It doesn't mention dual nationality in your link only Israeli.
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30/04/2024 09:21 AM
#2660
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Alikado
It doesn't mention dual nationality in your link only Israeli.
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"The UK recognises the right of British nationals with additional nationalities to serve in the legitimately recognised armed forces of the country of their other nationalities."
Black and white Mr P!
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30/04/2024 10:09 AM
#2661
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Hamble
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"The UK recognises the right of British nationals with additional nationalities to serve in the legitimately recognised armed forces of the country of their other nationalities."
Black and white Mr P!
But he's not a British National!
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30/04/2024 11:13 AM
#2662
I already replied and qualified that way back in the conversation.
Quote Hamble
"1. It is only fair as Palestinian students get the same scrutiny.
2. Border Force ask questions to check veracity of claims.
How would a Brit know the if a Palestinian terrorist was posing as a Israeli student?"
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30/04/2024 12:16 PM
#2663
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Israeli authorities have been blaming anyone but themselves for this deprivation, but the evidence points primarily to Netanyahu’s government. Israel understandably wants to stop the smuggling of arms to Hamas, but its understaffed, convoluted procedures for inspecting aid trucks can take three weeks, with trucks often rejected for carrying a single innocuous item that Israel deemed of military value, forcing them to start the process all over again.
Items rejected include anesthetics, cardiac catheters, chemical water quality testing kits, crutches, maternity kits, oxygen cylinders, surgical tools, ultrasound equipment, wheelchairs and X-ray machines. When the UN secretary general, António Guterres, visited the Egyptian side of the Gaza border in March, he saw “long lines of blocked relief trucks waiting to be let into Gaza”. Israel has allowed much-publicized airdrops and sea delivery of food, but they provide only a tiny fraction of what land transport could deliver.
It is thus not surprising that Khan reportedly will initially charge Netanyahu, as well as the defense minister, Yoav Gallant, and Israel Defense Forces chief of staff, Lt Gen Herzi Halevi, for having “deliberately starved Palestinians in Gaza”. Just as Khan initially charged Vladmir Putin and his children’s rights commissioner with abducting Ukrainian children, and only later began to address Russia’s factually more complicated bombing campaign starting with attacks on electrical infrastructure, so is Khan likely to start with the straightforward charges in Gaza before moving on to more complex ones.
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Kenneth Roth | Mon 29 Apr 2024
© 2024 Guardian News & Media Limited
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30/04/2024 02:11 PM
#2664
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Hamble
I already replied and qualified that way back in the conversation.
Quote Hamble
"1. It is only fair as Palestinian students get the same scrutiny.
2. Border Force ask questions to check veracity of claims.
How would a Brit know the if a Palestinian terrorist was posing as a Israeli student?"
The Border Force and Security Services know exactly who is on the plane and why, as to the questions they ask on landing they already know the answers to, they are to trip them up.
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30/04/2024 02:21 PM
#2665
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Alikado
The Border Force and Security Services know exactly who is on the plane and why, as to the questions they ask on landing they already know the answers to, they are to trip them up.
Tripping up for what Mr P?
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30/04/2024 05:34 PM
#2666
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Hamble
Tripping up for what Mr P?
To check the story, any slight mistake is pounced on and probed.
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30/04/2024 05:49 PM
#2667
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Alikado
To check the story, any slight mistake is pounced on and probed.
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Not the crime Donkey accused him of?
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30/04/2024 06:24 PM
#2668
TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pledged Tuesday to launch an incursion into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians are sheltering from the almost 7-month-long war, just as cease-fire negotiations between Israel and Hamas appear to be gaining steam.
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Netanyahu’s coalition is made up of ultranationalist and conservative religious parties, and critics of the Israeli leader say his decision-making during the war has been driven by political considerations rather than national interests, a charge Netanyahu denies. His government could collapse if one of the parties opposed to a deal pulls out, a scenario Netanyahu would try to avoid considering his support has plummeted in opinion polls since the war began, although it has seen a slight gradual uptick.
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, who heads the ultranationalist Religious Zionist party, said Monday that he was seeking “total annihilation” of Israel’s enemies, appearing to refer to Hamas, in a recorded portion of his remarks at an event marking the end of the Passover holiday which were aired in Israeli media.
“You can’t do half a job,” he said.
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Tia Goldenberg | April 30, 2024
Copyright 2024 The Associated Press.
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30/04/2024 06:37 PM
#2669
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Hamble
![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Not the crime Donkey accused him of?
Donkey didn't accuse him of anything.
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30/04/2024 08:08 PM
#2670
![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Alikado
Donkey didn't accuse him of anything.
Post 2646
Quote Donkey
"So... He was in military intelligence for a country whose military is accused of dozens of different war crimes?
At best he should expect to be questioned. Should’ve been questioned about complicity in war crimes."
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