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Problems Encountered when Parking
So off we go to the Industrial Estates to purchase whatever. Generally there is a huge parking area with hundreds of Parking Bays. You get to a parking area and find it pretty full, but luckily one or two spaces are available. Jolly good, reverse, stop - excellent manouvre, bang centre of an empty bay. You go to get out. There is a very narrow gap between your open door and the car in the next bay. After a Houdini style exit from your car, you have to face a repeat action when returning. Why should this be in these modern times?
For example these car widths are:
VW GOLF Saloon = 2027mm WIDE
MINI = 1727mm
FORD FOCUS = 1979mm
PORCHE = 1610mm
BMW = 2068mm
Average Parking bay width = 2400mm, Minimum = 1800mm
So if you are in a VW Golf of a width 2027mm, then after parking in an average bay, width 2400 - you have a space of 373mm to get out of your car without scratching the neighbouring car. This is just over the length of a ruler, or about 15 inches.
If you are in a BMW of width 2068mm parking in the same size bay - you have just 332mm space to get out of your car, slightly over a 12 inch ruler, about 13 inches.
So keep your diet up.
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A general lack of exercise and habitual over-eating, leads to people being fatter than they used to be. Fatter people then need fatter cars. Whereas, parking bays have remained the same width. I do sometimes wonder if the 'go-lightly' generation can actually exit their cars, when parking in the garage at home!
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Originally Posted by The PNP
A general lack of exercise and habitual over-eating, leads to people being fatter than they used to be. Fatter people then need fatter cars. Whereas, parking bays have remained the same width. I do sometimes wonder if the 'go-lightly' generation can actually exit their cars, when parking in the garage at home!
As I said on a previous thread, you'd struggle to get a car in the garage of most modern homes let alone get out of the car yourself once in.
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Originally Posted by The PNP
A general lack of exercise and habitual over-eating, leads to people being fatter than they used to be. Fatter people then need fatter cars. Whereas, parking bays have remained the same width. I do sometimes wonder if the 'go-lightly' generation can actually exit their cars, when parking in the garage at home!
Does that include 6'4" weight lifters?
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Originally Posted by gsgsgs
As I said on a previous thread, you'd struggle to get a car in the garage of most modern homes let alone get out of the car yourself once in.
As usual he is clueless he sees only himself and everybody else should conform he really needs to look up varieties of real humans ;
Endomorphs
Ectomorphs
Mesomorphs
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
As usual he is clueless he sees only himself and everybody else should conform he really needs to look up varieties of real humans ;
Endomorphs
Ectomorphs
Mesomorphs
Whilst there has always been a variety of body-shapes, the recent obesity 'epidemic' is down to lifestyle choices, not genetics.
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Originally Posted by said
Average Parking bay width = 2400mm, Minimum = 1800mm
So if you are in a VW Golf of a width 2027mm, then after parking in an average bay, width 2400 - you have a space of 373mm to get out of your car without scratching the neighbouring car. This is just over the length of a ruler, or about 15 inches.
If you are in a BMW of width 2068mm parking in the same size bay - you have just 332mm space to get out of your car, slightly over a 12 inch ruler, about 13 inches.
There's a fatal flaw in your calculations.
On average you will have twice as much space as your calculations because there is also the space between the parking bay line and the car in the next space.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
There's a fatal flaw in your calculations.
On average you will have twice as much space as your calculations because there is also the space between the parking bay line and the car in the next space.
Except when both parties open their doors simultaneously.....
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
There's a fatal flaw in your calculations.
On average you will have twice as much space as your calculations because there is also the space between the parking bay line and the car in the next space.
No because the space is split in two so assuming the cars are parked centrally the space between them would only be the 373mm.
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Originally Posted by Little Londoner
As usual he is clueless he sees only himself and everybody else should conform he really needs to look up varieties of real humans ;
Endomorphs
Ectomorphs
Mesomorphs
You really are so clever, wish I could be like that! But he is absolutely right, even the new houses being built have very tiny garages which conform to 1970's standards, just as the parking bays do.
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Originally Posted by Alikado
No because the space is split in two so assuming the cars are parked centrally the space between them would only be the 373mm.
Yes, apologies, you are both correct.
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Originally Posted by salus.populi
There's a fatal flaw in your calculations.
On average you will have twice as much space as your calculations because there is also the space between the parking bay line and the car in the next space.
Makes you wonder why car manufacturers make cars with doors which open fully, doesn't it?
You do have to take into account all the space available - can you honestly claim that everyone can fit through a space of 12 inches, (30cms) allowing for clothing etc., and ensuring their car door does not touch the adjacent car?
Even those smaller cars in a full line of bays do not allow sufficient space to open doors.
The truth is, the bays have not been upgraded since the seventies when cars were narrower, people have not changed in size but cars have.
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Originally Posted by said
people have not changed in size but cars have.
Disagree.....The 'fuller figure' looks to have become the norm. There are now issues re fitting all those wider a$$es side-by-side onto pairs of narrow bus seats, etc.
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Originally Posted by said
Makes you wonder why car manufacturers make cars with doors which open fully, doesn't it?
You do have to take into account all the space available - can you honestly claim that everyone can fit through a space of 12 inches, (30cms) allowing for clothing etc., and ensuring their car door does not touch the adjacent car?
Even those smaller cars in a full line of bays do not allow sufficient space to open doors.
The truth is, the bays have not been upgraded since the seventies when cars were narrower, people have not changed in size but cars have.
As I have said I have conceded that your original calculations were correct, but I note you are now stating 12 inches which has reduced from your first post which said 15 inches.
I do agree some spaces don't give much room but it would be impractical to ensure every parking space could accommodate everyone as then they'd all have to be big enough to accomodate the worlds biggest person. Personally I've never been unable to get out of my car in a parking space.
I'd also state that it is possible for a car door to touch the adjacent car without leaving a mark if done very carefully.
Perhaps cars should be finished with a coating that is actually resistant to scratches rather than shiny paint? It does seem impractical that something that is subject to road debris on every journey is coated in something so easy to damage.
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