Free Speech - what do you think

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Galloway is an anti-Semitic with poisonous and divisive political views.

How is he anti-semitic?

[Polly Trott]

Galloway speaks a lot of sense, he is well travelled and good with politics. But he is sadly off target. It is unfortunate that he has named his Party 'The Worker's Party'while although his party is based strongly on the 'old' Labour, the title implies 'Communist'. Following on from the old Labour policies, where an attempt was made to attract foreign votes, the Worker's Party still adhere to this practice which actually weakens their position, for you cannot attract foreign workers and at the same time protect British jobs.....

Which foreigners do you think can vote in UK elections?

Galloway panders to the right. I am sure he is fully aware border controls have existed in the UK since 1905 yet he states "the control of our borders, both physical and financial, will be a guarantee...of the rights of our workers to good labour rights and rates of pay". Has anyone had a pay rise in the last 120 years or so due to the existence of border controls?

[Hamble]

How is he anti-semitic?

The internet is full of Galloway's anti-Semitic bile.
I rather like this summary.

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"George Galloway is ready to deliver whenever Vladimir Putin needs the former British parliamentarian to spew his nonsense. But Galloway's services are not free.

A renowned champagne socialist who adores the good life, Galloway has shown a remarkable ideological flexibility in prostituting himself for totalitarians. If they offer bundles of cash, Galloway offers an eloquent voice for their propaganda. Galloway has even mastered the art of working for the revolutionary Khomeinist republic of Iran, and being good friends with its former arch-nemesis, Saddam Hussein.

To be fair to the totalitarians, however, Galloway is a far better propagandist than most of those who are willing to appear on their networks.

These days, the high-paying RT and Sputnik duo of Kremlin Western-focused propaganda are Galloway's bread and butter. And on Tuesday, he produced another golden nugget of Putin disinformation. Referencing a recently leaked audio recording involving Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Galloway declared that Pompeo is planning to weaponize British Jews against Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, another willing Putin stooge.


A conversation with Douglas Holtz-Eakin of the American Action Forum
Galloway's claims are totally ridiculous — Pompeo only said the U.S. would support Jews against discrimination. But such conspiracies are good fodder for RT. That's because they make America look bad while presenting Corbyn as an unjustly attacked British patriot (Putin desperately wants Corbyn in power).

Then again, Galloway isn't as clever as he thinks. In arguing that Pompeo is unfairly attacking Corbyn over the latter's supposedly false (but evidently real) anti-Semitism, Galloway proves his own anti-Semitism once again. Consider his concluding line: "But ironically the most offensive thing about Pompeo’s secret speech is the cynical weaponization of Britain’s Jewish community to defeat the Labour Party. Nothing could be more hazardous for a religious minority of just 250,000 people than that."

Think about that line: "Nothing could be more hazardous for a religious minority of just 250,000 people than that." This is, in fact, a very dark threat against British Jews from a British figure who has repeatedly shown he won't hesitate to hurt them. In 2005, Galloway famously "weaponized" Islamists against a Jewish parliamentary candidate.

In this context, Galloway's words cannot be discounted as the simple rant of a prostitute for extremism. They must be regarded as a threat. Alongside Corbyn's antisemitic record, it should send shivers up decent people's spines."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...dist-for-putin





Lets clear up his political bent:

Galloway is the current leader of the Workers Party of Britain -Leftist.

Galloway was sacked from The Labour Party -Leftist

Supported Corbyn in the 2015 General Election-far left

Galloway founded The Respect Party and stood for Parliament.
the Islamic Forum of Europe, which advocates sharia law, had been involved in campaigning for Galloway in the Bethnal Green constituency. Galloway said that the involvement of the IFE had played "the decisive role" in his win] Although the IFE itself denied the accusation, Galloway admitted in a statement that the allegation was true.- Left.

In 2009, Galloway received a Palestinian passport from Hamas leader Ismail Haniya. Hamas is designated as a terrorist organisation by Israel, the European Union, and the US. - (Unacceptable face of) Left

[silver fox]

The internet is full of Galloway's anti-Semitic bile.
I rather like this summary.

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"George Galloway is ready to deliver whenever Vladimir Putin needs the former British parliamentarian to spew his nonsense. But Galloway's services are not free.

A renowned champagne socialist who adores the good life, Galloway has shown a remarkable ideological flexibility in prostituting himself for totalitarians. If they offer bundles of cash, Galloway offers an eloquent voice for their propaganda. Galloway has even mastered the art of working for the revolutionary Khomeinist republic of Iran, and being good friends with its former arch-nemesis, Saddam Hussein.

To be fair to the totalitarians, however, Galloway is a far better propagandist than most of those who are willing to appear on their networks.

These days, the high-paying RT and Sputnik duo of Kremlin Western-focused propaganda are Galloway's bread and butter. And on Tuesday, he produced another golden nugget of Putin disinformation. Referencing a recently leaked audio recording involving Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Galloway declared that Pompeo is planning to weaponize British Jews against Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, another willing Putin stooge.


A conversation with Douglas Holtz-Eakin of the American Action Forum
Galloway's claims are totally ridiculous — Pompeo only said the U.S. would support Jews against discrimination. But such conspiracies are good fodder for RT. That's because they make America look bad while presenting Corbyn as an unjustly attacked British patriot (Putin desperately wants Corbyn in power).

Then again, Galloway isn't as clever as he thinks. In arguing that Pompeo is unfairly attacking Corbyn over the latter's supposedly false (but evidently real) anti-Semitism, Galloway proves his own anti-Semitism once again. Consider his concluding line: "But ironically the most offensive thing about Pompeo’s secret speech is the cynical weaponization of Britain’s Jewish community to defeat the Labour Party. Nothing could be more hazardous for a religious minority of just 250,000 people than that."

Think about that line: "Nothing could be more hazardous for a religious minority of just 250,000 people than that." This is, in fact, a very dark threat against British Jews from a British figure who has repeatedly shown he won't hesitate to hurt them. In 2005, Galloway famously "weaponized" Islamists against a Jewish parliamentary candidate.

In this context, Galloway's words cannot be discounted as the simple rant of a prostitute for extremism. They must be regarded as a threat. Alongside Corbyn's antisemitic record, it should send shivers up decent people's spines."


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...dist-for-putin





Lets clear up his political bent:

Galloway is the current leader of the Workers Party of Britain -Leftist.

Galloway was sacked from The Labour Party -Leftist

Supported Corbyn in the 2015 General Election-far left

Galloway founded The Respect Party and stood for Parliament.
the Islamic Forum of Europe, which advocates sharia law, had been involved in campaigning for Galloway in the Bethnal Green constituency. Galloway said that the involvement of the IFE had played "the decisive role" in his win] Although the IFE itself denied the accusation, Galloway admitted in a statement that the allegation was true.- Left.

In 2009, Galloway received a Palestinian passport from Hamas leader Ismail Haniya. Hamas is designated as a terrorist organisation by Israel, the European Union, and the US. - (Unacceptable face of) Left

Galloway is an opportunistic, attention seeking prat, with not a hope of actually achieving anything beyond localised disruption.

Why please do manage to equate every undesirable and unwanted element with the “left” ? this is simply not accurate and reveals your own obsession more than any reality

[Polly Trott]

Your yet another example of the I'm alright Jack apologists, great you have your freedoms but don't let anyone else have them.

Why are you defending the bullies?

Decent people don't harass teachers and pupils.

Do you hate women?

Why are you happy to have children's freedoms curtailed?

There is nothing you could stack up in a room that would make me want to harass innocent children and their teachers, why do you support people that do?

It was the Muslim students who were being harassed. They were forced to look at pictures that are deeply offensive to them and their class mates were given the impression that their beliefs and sensibilities don't matter.

[Polly Trott]

Galloway is an opportunistic, attention seeking prat, with not a hope of actually achieving anything beyond localised disruption.

Why please do manage to equate every undesirable and unwanted element with the “left” ? this is simply not accurate and reveals your own obsession more than any reality

Yes. Galloway represents either socialism in one country or National Socialism - both of which I find extremely problematic.

[Hamble]

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"Labour Party organiser
Galloway joined the Labour Party Young Socialists aged just 13 (although he said he was 15) and was still a teenager when he became secretary of the Dundee Labour Party.[4][13]

Galloway became vice-chairman of the Labour Party in the City of Dundee and a member of the Scottish Executive Committee in 1975. On 5 May 1977, he contested his first election campaign in the Scottish district elections, but failed to hold the safe Labour Gillburn ward in Dundee being defeated by the independent Bunty Turley.[14] He became the secretary organiser of the Dundee Labour Party in 1977 and at 26 was the youngest ever chairman of the Scottish Labour Party in March 1981,[15] a post he held for a year after holding the vice-chairman post over the previous year.[16]

After a trip to Beirut, Lebanon during 1977, Galloway became a supporter of Palestine, stating during his libel case against The Daily Telegraph in 2004 that "barely a week after my return I made a pledge, in the Tavern Bar in Dundee's Hawkhill District, to devote the rest of my life to the Palestinian and Arab cause."[17] He supported Dundee City Council when it flew the Palestinian flag over the City Chambers building, and was involved in the twinning of Dundee with the Palestinian West Bank town of Nablus (Shechem) in 1980.[18][19]

In late 1981, Galloway was interviewed for the Scottish Marxist in which Galloway supported the affiliation of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) to the Labour Party, in the same way as the Fabian Society does.[20] Believing that a deficiency in political theory was being filled by the entryist infiltration of the party by the Trotskyists (such as the Militant group), Galloway thought the problem was better resolved by communist thinking from members of the CPGB.[20][21] (He was later opposed to the expulsion of members of Militant.[13])

In response, Denis Healey, Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, tried and failed to remove Galloway from the list of Prospective Parliamentary Candidates. Healey lost his motion by 13 votes to five.[22] Galloway once quipped that, to overcome a £1.5 million deficit which had arisen in Dundee's city budget, he, Ernie Ross, and leading councillors should be placed in the stocks in the city square: "we would allow people to throw buckets of water over us at 20p a time."[23]

In 1983, Galloway attempted to stand for the safe Labour seat of Rhondda after the Welsh Transport and General Workers' Union and the National Union of Miners had both nominated him to succeed Alec Jones, who had died.[24] He hoped to be selected in the newly created seat of Dunfermline East where no incumbent was standing.[25] Galloway failed to be selected for either seat, with Rhondda selecting Allan Rogers and Dunfermline East selecting future Chancellor of the Exchequer and later Prime Minister, Gordon Brown.

Standing as a candidate for a place on the Labour Party National Executive Committee in 1986, in a large field of 18 candidates, Galloway finished in 16th place.[26]"........................




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway

[shippy]

White, English, Straight, PROUD.

Oh Dear,

Are you insinuating, that a person, who is not white, not English and not
Straight, has nothing to be proud of ?

Just curious.

I must point out , it was the additional word straight that niggled me.

I’m born and bred British, and I am one of the lucky ones who was brought up and educated with a decent set of morals and understanding.
As were my family for many generations.

Racism of any sort is lacking in human decency.

[Hamble]

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"Bill Carmichael: Don’t tar Bradford with the madness of George Galloway
IF there is anyone out there who still doubts that George Galloway is completely off his trolley, just read his latest rant in which he – apparently seriously – bans Israelis from entering Bradford.
By Bill Carmichael: Opinion
Friday, 8th August 2014, 6:02 am

Bradford West MP George Galloway.
Yes, I am afraid it really is that crazy. On what authority he claims to instigate such a ban isn’t clear. Unfortunately, and to the city’s eternal shame, Galloway is the MP for Bradford West, but the last time I checked it didn’t give him the right to decide who can and cannot enter the city.

Also unclear is how he plans to police the ban. Will there be a new border crossing set up on the M606 motorway with black-shirted Gauleiters checking everyone’s passport?

Perhaps for easy identification Jewish people in Bradford should be forced to wear yellow stars on their clothing? Someone with views very similar to Galloway’s once tried that, and it didn’t end happily.


Galloway also boasts he has made Bradford an “Israeli free zone” banning Israeli goods and visits by Israeli academics. If so the people of Bradford are going to have to get along without mobile phones or computers – both powered by Israeli technology.


It is easy to laugh at Galloway’s latest madness, but there is a serious point to be made here. The Left collectively has entirely taken leave of its senses when it comes to Israel.

They have joined forces with neo-Nazis and extremist Islamists to try to destroy the tiny Jewish democracy for daring to defend itself from terrorist attacks.

In recent days we have had another Bradford MP, David Ward, fantasising about firing rockets at Israeli homes, and Baroness Warsi quit her government post because she demanded stronger action against Israel.

Vile anti-Semitism of the sort spouted by Galloway and Ward is not only accepted on the Left but has become very fashionable.


The singling out and demonisation of Israel by politicians has its consequences. Around the world attacks on Jewish people and property are increasing rapidly and in Berlin and Paris the mobs scream “Jews to the gas chamber”.

I am afraid that thanks to the inflammatory wickedness of people like Galloway we are very close to similar violence here in the UK. The Islamist and Leftist thugs who attach themselves to the anti-Israeli cause won’t take much persuading to start firebombing synagogues.

And don’t for a moment think that this anti-Israeli hysteria is motivated by any compassion for the Palestinian people. Galloway has never met a blood-soaked Arab tyrant that he hasn’t liked, including Saddam Hussein. In a piece of nauseating sycophancy, he hosed down the then Iraqi leader with praise and infamously lauded him as “indefatigable”.

Galloway is also a staunch supporter of the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad, who has killed more Palestinian civilians than the Israelis ever have, including months of bombardment by jets and artillery of the Palestinian refugee camp at Yarmouk, near Damascus.


The fighting in Syria has claimed more than 170,000 lives including more than 9,000 children, compared to fewer than 2,000 killed in Gaza, yet I don’t recall Galloway ever calling for a ban on Syrian nationals or the Left boycotting Syrian goods.

It seems dead Palestinians are perfectly fine as long as it’s your friends that are doing the killing.

In fact when Assad used chemical weapons against his own people Galloway excused the atrocity and dreamt up a bizarre conspiracy theory that the attack was all the fault of – yes you guessed it – the Israelis.

I used to live in Bradford and have many friends there. Unlike Galloway, who once hilariously confused Bradford with Blackburn, I know the city well and visit it often. The city has fallen on hard times recently and sadly there are some misguided people who will vote for clowns such as Galloway.


But at the risk of saying the obvious, Galloway does not speak for Bradford. The overwhelming majority of the population are decent people who want to see peace in the world and who detest the sort of racism and bigotry espoused by Galloway.

The next time Galloway makes one of his lucrative visits to see his chums in Beirut or Damascus he could do the people of Bradford a huge favour if he just bought a one-way ticket."





https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...lloway-1837090

[seivad]

Almost everyone who comes to live in the UK is a British Citizen - just as you are a Canadian Citizen. But are you Canadian? Would a Canadian born and bred in Canada with Canadian parents/grandparents consider you a Canadian?

Yes, if they knew that I was a naturalised Canadian, why wouldn't they consider me to be Canadian? Unless you are descended from First Nation people, everyone in Canada has either come from another country, or their antecedents did.

In my experience Canadians tend to get annoyed with those who settle in Canada as a permanent resident, yet despite living here for decades with no intention of ever leaving, have never taken Canadian citizenship.

Are those who come to the UK, British? Do British people consider those who carry a British passport as British? No! Do we consider those who look Asian/Chinese/Black or who speak a different language etc., as British - No. You can choose which country you want to live in, but you cannot choose your heritage.

Wow, just wow. What about subsequent generations of visible minority children who are born and bred in Britain? Will they be British? Or does their appearance preclude that?

[silver fox]

Yes, if they knew that I was a naturalised Canadian, why wouldn't they consider me to be Canadian? Unless you are descended from First Nation people, everyone in Canada has either come from another country, or their antecedents did.

In my experience Canadians tend to get annoyed with those who settle in Canada as a permanent resident, yet despite living here for decades with no intention of ever leaving, have never taken Canadian citizenship.


Wow, just wow. What about subsequent generations of visible minority children who are born and bred in Britain? Will they be British? Or does their appearance preclude that?

Said will never get his/her head around the simple fact that our entire population have at one time or another been immigrants, then over the years there have been invasions, immigrants fleeing persecution and those looking for a different life, even one time enemies who after capture, opted to stay.

[sandGroundZero]

Don’t tar Bradford with the madness of George Galloway
"IF there is anyone out there who still doubts that George Galloway is completely off his trolley, just read his latest rant in which he – apparently seriously – bans Israelis from entering Bradford.

— Bill Carmichael: Opinion | Friday, 8th August 2014

The link (for any who hadn't noticed) is NOT George Galloway's rant but rather that of Bill Carmichael who has not included a link to [the briefly, between 2012 & 2015 Bradford West MP], the alleged rant of Galloway.

…It is easy to laugh at Galloway’s latest madness, but there is a serious point to be made here. The Left collectively has entirely taken leave of its senses when it comes to Israel. …

…says who? Bill Carmichael

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George Galloway is a text book example, if one were needed, of the proposition that seeking election to the House of Commons attracts eccentric, usually pretty self-absorbed individuals. MPs are anything but representative of the population as a whole. Having said that, as a Labour MP from Glasgow, Kelvin from 1997 until he was expelled, Galloway was the most persistent and effective critic of New Labour and especially fierce critic of Blair's Iraq folly. Accounts in the media at that time suggested Galloway was never liked by his Labour party colleagues, not least because "gorgeous George's" suits were too fine for a Labour Glaswegian.

Galloway's uncompromising stance on Israel vis-à-vis its Islamic majority neighbours made him an enemy of pro-Israeli voices. As to whether he is anti-Semitic, I caution against believing everything said or written about him. It does, however, appear to be the case that in his increasingly desperate attempts to return to the Commons he has been prepared to pander to Muslim grievances, in constituencies where their numbers made them an influential potential block of voters.

George Galloway — inveterate politico

[Hamble]

The link (for any who hadn't noticed) is NOT George Galloway's rant but rather that of Bill Carmichael who has not included a link to [the briefly, between 2012 & 2015 Bradford West MP], the alleged rant of Galloway.

…says who? Bill Carmichael

_________________________________________________________________

George Galloway is a text book example, if one were needed, of the proposition that seeking election to the House of Commons attracts eccentric, usually pretty self-absorbed individuals. MPs are anything but representative of the population as a whole. Having said that, as a Labour MP from Glasgow, Kelvin from 1997 until he was expelled, Galloway was the most persistent and effective critic of New Labour and especially fierce critic of Blair's Iraq folly. Accounts in the media at that time suggested Galloway was never liked by his Labour party colleagues, not least because "gorgeous George's" suits were too fine for a Labour Glaswegian.

Galloway's uncompromising stance on Israel vis-à-vis its Islamic majority neighbours made him an enemy of pro-Israeli voices. As to whether he is anti-Semitic, I caution against believing everything said or written about him. It does, however, appear to be the case that in his increasingly desperate attempts to return to the Commons he has been prepared to pander to Muslim grievances, in constituencies where their numbers made them an influential potential block of voters.

George Galloway — inveterate politico

If Galloway declared Bradford a Pakistani free zone would you still have trouble finding his problem?

To single out Israeli's is to single out any other national living in the UK.

Galloway incites racial hatred.

Blair bombed Iraq everyone hates him.

If Galloway cared about Palestinians befriending the leader of Hamas was not the only option.

Ismail Haniyeh who gave Galloway a Palestinian Passport.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismail_Haniyeh

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"After a trip to Beirut, Lebanon during 1977, Galloway became a supporter of Palestine, stating during his libel case against The Daily Telegraph in 2004 that "barely a week after my return I made a pledge, in the Tavern Bar in Dundee's Hawkhill District, to devote the rest of my life to the Palestinian and Arab cause."

What about the rest of the population of Bradford?

[local]

It was the Muslim students who were being harassed. They were forced to look at pictures that are deeply offensive to them and their class mates were given the impression that their beliefs and sensibilities don't matter.

Far from it they were only offended because their religious zealot leaders brainwashed them to be.

Your feeble attempts to defend a religion that can treat women so badly is a mystery to me.
Is it just a case of you have your freedoms and don't care about women.

Or maybe you don't care about children?

If they were white middle class and being indoctrinated under threat by Tommy Robinson I suppose you might think about them then.

Racism rears its ugly head in many forms.

[sandGroundZero]

If Galloway declared Bradford a Pakistani free zone … To single out Israeli's is to single out any other national living in the UK. | Galloway incites racial hatred. … If Galloway cared about Palestinians … Most of all "After a trip to Beirut, Lebanon during 1977, Galloway became a supporter of Palestine, stating during his libel case against The Daily Telegraph in 2004 that "barely a week after my return I made a pledge, in the Tavern Bar in Dundee's Hawkhill District, to devote the rest of my life to the Palestinian and Arab cause." What about the rest of the population of Bradford?

George Galloway is undeniably zealous in his dedication "to the Palestinian and Arab cause." I do not defend Galloway's outlandish behaviour and certainly not his sometimes bizarre rhetoric. His continuing public prominence seems to me to be one of many indications that our representative institutions are in need of reform.
Having said that, Galloway's behaviour attracts a level of antipathy all out of proportion to his real impact in the UK's political zoo.