Delay to Lockdown easing

[said]

What's with the repeated "tell me in your own words" shtick? It's you who's a lazy c&p merchant.

As heartless inquisitions go, that's a vampiric doozy . You sound as though you're practising to be a Job's comforter.

Btw, I've 'Disliked' your post, as I know how important it is for you to achieve your target of 400 dislikes for your output on here (before your next goal of 500 dislikes, etc...). I'm pleased to help as it was nothing to me.

Jolly good! You have done your good deed for the day so now you can just pop off and enjoy yourself in the satisfying knowledge that you have been a credit to all mankind.

[seivad]

The questions were arranged as a media reporter would have asked them and for a single purpose only. Your only response was abusive - without answering one of the questions. I an only deal with the facts as you produce them, not fairy tales.

Your 'facts as you produce them', plus your fanciful additions, are fairy tales indeed!

Johnson does not have Covid for the second time. He's isolating due to contact with David. David has contracted Covid... for the first time.

Your question to Toodles re.how long was it after her son tested positive on Monday before he experienced symptoms. She doesn't mention her son. Her GRANDSON tested positive on a Monday AFTER experiencing symptoms over the weekend.

[silver fox]

Your 'facts as you produce them', plus your fanciful additions, are fairy tales indeed!

Johnson does not have Covid for the second time. He's isolating due to contact with David. David has contracted Covid... for the first time.

Your question to Toodles re.how long was it after her son tested positive on Monday before he experienced symptoms. She doesn't mention her son. Her GRANDSON tested positive on a Monday AFTER experiencing symptoms over the weekend.

Wasting your time seviad, you don’t expect accuracy when it comes to facts? We all know that facts aren’t “Said’s” strongpoint, don’t you know that variants/mutations of the virus are weaker than the original, can’t imagine why some new variants are causing so much concern, after all our resident “expert” has declared them of no consequence,

[said]

Wasting your time seviad, you don’t expect accuracy when it comes to facts? We all know that facts aren’t “Said’s” strongpoint, don’t you know that variants/mutations of the virus are weaker than the original, can’t imagine why some new variants are causing so much concern, after all our resident “expert” has declared them of no consequence,

Like everyone else, I do make spelling mistakes or insert a wrong word unintentionally, I am only as human as anyone else. But I can assure you my facts are accurate. I have been right far more times than I have been wrong simply because I do know what I am talking about unless of course, my education has been wrong, my research has been wrong and I have therefore passed misinformation on to hundreds of others - whereas all your information is correct, and you know everything there is to know because you listened to television 'experts' who you have not bothered to check out.

Would you prefer to discuss anything with people who will agree with you just because it is a simpler way of life, or would you prefer to discuss topics with people who will tell you the truth? I am not on any governments payroll. Would you prefer someone to tell you that the tie you are wearing is a wonderful accessory to your outfit because it is easier to say that then get into an argument when in fact the truth is that the tie is a blasphemy to fashion. Do you prefer to be lied to?

I do not lie and I am not known to do so - but it is so easy for me to see when someone else is. I am known for speaking my mind and I am not intimidated by anyone. If I am proved to be wrong, I will apologise and accept that it is all part of the learning curve - but I am not wrong and no-one as proved that I am.

So, apart from the Chinese whispers that are common on this site - I challenge you to prove that I am wrong. If you cannot do so - then you have no right in condemning what I say.

I doubt anyone can offer any such proof, and because they are unable to do so, I have no doubt that I will be once again, subjected to a load of personal abuse that posters enjoy and cling to - and then I have once again, won the day.

[local]

Has the Prof's meds changed?

[seivad]

So you have BEEN TOLD. Got any evidence? Anyway, variants are generally weaker than the original virus, which in itself was pretty weak anyway.

Care to explain how a weaker variant manages to eclipse the variant in circulation and take its place as the dominant variant?

[Toodles McGinty]

The questions were arranged as a media reporter would have asked them and for a single purpose only. Your only response was abusive - without answering one of the questions. I an only deal with the facts as you produce them, not fairy tales.

You aren't a media reporter. I've detailed the situation with my family.

And you're a crank. **** off.

[local]

Like everyone else, I do make spelling mistakes or insert a wrong word unintentionally, I am only as human as anyone else. But I can assure you my facts are accurate. I have been right far more times than I have been wrong simply because I do know what I am talking about unless of course, my education has been wrong, my research has been wrong and I have therefore passed misinformation on to hundreds of others - whereas all your information is correct, and you know everything there is to know because you listened to television 'experts' who you have not bothered to check out.

Would you prefer to discuss anything with people who will agree with you just because it is a simpler way of life, or would you prefer to discuss topics with people who will tell you the truth? I am not on any governments payroll. Would you prefer someone to tell you that the tie you are wearing is a wonderful accessory to your outfit because it is easier to say that then get into an argument when in fact the truth is that the tie is a blasphemy to fashion. Do you prefer to be lied to?

I do not lie and I am not known to do so - but it is so easy for me to see when someone else is. I am known for speaking my mind and I am not intimidated by anyone. Both Johnson and Javid have both had both vaccinations, and yet still contracted the virus for a second time. So how can you be sure where the other siblings caught it from? - bBoth Johnson and Javid have both had both vaccinations, and yet still contracted the virus for a second time. So how can you be sure where the other siblings caught it from?

So, apart from the Chinese whispers that are common on this site - I challenge you to prove that I am wrong. If you cannot do so - then you have no right in condemning what I say.

I doubt anyone can offer any such proof, and because they are unable to do so, I have no doubt that I will be once again, subjected to a load of personal abuse that posters enjoy and cling to - and then I have once again, won the day.

Prof, pretending that you have been in a higher educational position doesn't do you any favours and opens you up to ridicule.

Unless your some type of masochist of course?

[said]

Care to explain how a weaker variant manages to eclipse the variant in circulation and take its place as the dominant variant?

A virus does not suddenly morph into something completely different. It is only a variant due to a minute change in its RNA and these changes occur constantly with all viruses.

Each of these viruses comprises of an mRNA (Messenger RiboNucleicAcid) chain. When the virus replicates which it does do constantly, there may be a very slight variation in its RNA chain. A mutation. There are millions of variations during the activity period. A mutation can do one of three things, it can do absolutely nothing, it can kill the virus or it can be beneficial to the virus by creating a stronger strain.

The method, very basically explained - to detect a mutation, involves using a chemical to breakdown the wall of an infected cell, the cell contains lot of bits and pieces which are then placed into a centrifuge. The centrifuge separates the cell components into layers according to weight.The RNA genome, the lightest component, is on the top. This is removed an placed on a clean substrate and the RNA sequence can be read. It would be impossible to detect every single mutation a virus generates.

If the mutation is stronger than the original - the number of positive cases would exceed the original numbers - Except, for the human immune system. The human body's natural immune system has already recorded the virus and can act immediately to kill it. There are millions of mutations occurring within the human cells all the while someone is ill, so additional mutations are dealt with very efficiently.

There are no pre-symptomatic cases because as soon as a virus is contracted - the body's immune system reacts immediately. A person would have symptoms initially of a high temperature and a slight sore throat to begin with.

So mutations should not increase anxiety - they are a natural virus activity for which your body's immune system is able to deal with. Deaths occur when the body is unable to respond to a virus attack - this is when a person has certain underlying health conditions which are caused by a number of different viruses which the immune system is already fighting. In which case the immune system goes into overload and cannot deal with it.

The media refers to 'variants'/'mutations' - this is wrong. A virus produces millions of mutations - only when the mutation is beneficial does it become a new 'strain' - it cannot be a dominant variant.

[Alikado]

Your family do unfortunately seem to be going through a very unusual and rare rough time with their health. It must be very hard on you.

Please can you tell me in your own words, has this happened just now, or has it been going on for some while? Since you gave no indication in your previous comments. Can you tell me if your family tested positive after the test cycle was increased or before? From Monday when your son tested positive, how long after did symptoms begin to show?

Both Johnson and Javid have both had both vaccinations, and yet still contracted the virus for a second time. So how can you be sure where the other siblings caught it from?

Can you tell me, again in your own words - how you, or those who made the decision, managed to make an accurate diagnosis on the symptoms as opposed to the symptoms of a different type of coronavirus?

Do all your family live local or are they spread out in the UK?

Your answers could be very helpful to anyone else who may be caught out by this virus. Thank you

I must have missed something can you provide me with a link to the information that both Johnson & Javid have caught it for a second time, I can find no reference to Javid having had it previously nor Johnson having caught it again.

[Toodles McGinty]

Just been to Sainsburys.

Happy to report that everyone, apart from one young lad, was masked.

Quite a few older people wearing them outside too.

Flip side of the coin, 11 were arrested at anti-lockdown protests in London. I'm all for the right to protest, but what in Wat Tyler's name are they protesting against? Isn't it supposed to be 'Freedom Day'?

And why is it mainly middle aged / older blokes?:

[silver fox]

A virus does not suddenly morph into something completely different. It is only a variant due to a minute change in its RNA and these changes occur constantly with all viruses.

Each of these viruses comprises of an mRNA (Messenger RiboNucleicAcid) chain. When the virus replicates which it does do constantly, there may be a very slight variation in its RNA chain. A mutation. There are millions of variations during the activity period. A mutation can do one of three things, it can do absolutely nothing, it can kill the virus or it can be beneficial to the virus by creating a stronger strain.

The method, very basically explained - to detect a mutation, involves using a chemical to breakdown the wall of an infected cell, the cell contains lot of bits and pieces which are then placed into a centrifuge. The centrifuge separates the cell components into layers according to weight.The RNA genome, the lightest component, is on the top. This is removed an placed on a clean substrate and the RNA sequence can be read. It would be impossible to detect every single mutation a virus generates.

If the mutation is stronger than the original - the number of positive cases would exceed the original numbers - Except, for the human immune system. The human body's natural immune system has already recorded the virus and can act immediately to kill it. There are millions of mutations occurring within the human cells all the while someone is ill, so additional mutations are dealt with very efficiently.

There are no pre-symptomatic cases because as soon as a virus is contracted - the body's immune system reacts immediately. A person would have symptoms initially of a high temperature and a slight sore throat to begin with.

So mutations should not increase anxiety - they are a natural virus activity for which your body's immune system is able to deal with. Deaths occur when the body is unable to respond to a virus attack - this is when a person has certain underlying health conditions which are caused by a number of different viruses which the immune system is already fighting. In which case the immune system goes into overload and cannot deal with it.

The media refers to 'variants'/'mutations' - this is wrong. A virus produces millions of mutations - only when the mutation is beneficial does it become a new 'strain' - it cannot be a dominant variant.

I think the vast majority are aware that viruses mutate, that some make the virus weaker, some sadly make the virus stronger, until any variant is identified we have no idea as to any new properties the virus now has, this is why there is a degree of anxiety at all levels, mapping a virus is like watching evolution on speed.

[Hamble]

Nothing has changed for me mask wise.

Distancing is a habit I cannot break yet.

[local]

I think our resident Professor is trying to explain copying errors.

What he will do with his new found knowledge and his original Professor Flu posts are put side by side I don't know, perhaps go off grid for a while?

[silver fox]

I think our resident Professor is trying to explain copying errors.

What he will do with his new found knowledge and his original Professor Flu posts are put side by side I don't know, perhaps go off grid for a while?

Now Local mustn't point out these sort of things, you know our resident expert has never been proved wrong.