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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    The food & beverage service industry is generally sympathetic to that line of thought, but business in general is markedly more anti social distancing than they are anti mask. It's social distancing that massively reduces capacity. Many businesses can remain viable with mask 'requirements' but maintaining social distancing 'requirements' for certain business sectors leads to businesses not being sustainable, viable commercial enterprises.

    Meanwhile, hospital staff, I feel, would be unsympathetic to your usual "Why bother?" attitude:

    FFP3 masks for hospital staff cuts COVID-19 infections by up to 100 per cent

    https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/ff...-100-per-cent/

    Hospital staff do what they are instructed to do or lose their jobs. Surgeons do not have to wear masks - many do because if they are doing precision work using both hands and they cough or sneeze it could be quite damaging for the patient if the surgeon has to drop the blade to get out a handkerchief to cough or sneeze into.

    It is absolutely clear that you do not understand science. If you did you would not be making such claims, you would be agreeing with me..

    Of course businesses are anti distancing - business is selling as many products as possible, the more people the merrier!





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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Hospital staff do what they are instructed to do or lose their jobs. Surgeons do not have to wear masks - many do because if they are doing precision work using both hands and they cough or sneeze it could be quite damaging for the patient if the surgeon has to drop the blade to get out a handkerchief to cough or sneeze into.

    It is absolutely clear that you do not understand science. If you did you would not be making such claims, you would be agreeing with me..

    Of course businesses are anti distancing - business is selling as many products as possible, the more people the merrier!

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    It is absolutely clear that you do not understand science
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    business is selling as many products as possible
    For someone with your assumption of expertise, there's often a jarring low-resolution to your statements.


    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Hospital staff do what they are instructed to do or lose their jobs. Surgeons do not have to wear masks - many do because if they are doing precision work using both hands and they cough or sneeze it could be quite damaging for the patient if the surgeon has to drop the blade to get out a handkerchief to cough or sneeze into.
    Yet when you switch to a higher resolution, you fumble comedy junk as above, where you drop knowledge on a par with what you might hear at a Christmas family get-together when tipsy people are having fun playing Hasbro's Operation board game.

    Indeed, is that when you heard that joke?

    You once infamously suggested on this forum that women's lips should be sewn up to stop women from talking. In the same spirit, have you ever considered having your bum cheeks sewn together?

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    And you have not worn PPE all the time this pandemic has been going on?
    Your original post was about PPE issued by employers to workers. I work at home so don't need it.

    I wouldn't class paper or cloth face masks worn by civilians going to the shops as PPE although they can and do reduce the spread of viruses.
    Last edited by salus.populi; 06/07/2021 at 11:19 AM.

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    Actually no - I am very fortunate in that my sh..t comes out of my as hole unlike most of you where it has to negotiate its way past your tongue!
    You simply don’t or can’t learn, in your OP you blather on masks don’t do this that or the other, we all know that the basic masks most of use do not give full protection to the wearer, it has been stated often and long enough that masks help to minimise the spread of infection, they do more to stop the wearer from spreading infection, rather than be 100% protection for the wearer.

    Your constant attempts to belittle others in the face of your superior knowledge are in turn amusing and/or annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    You simply don’t or can’t learn, in your OP you blather on masks don’t do this that or the other, we all know that the basic masks most of use do not give full protection to the wearer, it has been stated often and long enough that masks help to minimise the spread of infection, they do more to stop the wearer from spreading infection, rather than be 100% protection for the wearer.

    Your constant attempts to belittle others in the face of your superior knowledge are in turn amusing and/or annoying.

    It is not superior knowledge - it is a matter of 'thinking' A mask does not stop you breathing - right? If you can breathe IN and OUT while wearing a mask - since a virus is airborne - then you can breathe IN and OUT viruses - is that not right? I have not witnessed ONE person wearing a mask correctly - this means that all those wearing masks are protecting people as much as I am - and I have never worn one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    It is not superior knowledge - it is a matter of 'thinking' A mask does not stop you breathing - right? If you can breathe IN and OUT while wearing a mask - since a virus is airborne - then you can breathe IN and OUT viruses - is that not right? I have not witnessed ONE person wearing a mask correctly - this means that all those wearing masks are protecting people as much as I am - and I have never worn one.
    As you are failing to understand the fundamental reasoning behind mask wearing, here it is in very simple pictures for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    It is not superior knowledge - it is a matter of 'thinking' A mask does not stop you breathing - right? If you can breathe IN and OUT while wearing a mask - since a virus is airborne - then you can breathe IN and OUT viruses - is that not right? I have not witnessed ONE person wearing a mask correctly - this means that all those wearing masks are protecting people as much as I am - and I have never worn one.
    Probably not vaccinated either, but most of us do what we can to keep ourselves AND OTHERS as safe as we can, you of course know better, you are the only one with clear thought, news for you, you aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    I have not witnessed ONE person wearing a mask correctly
    That could be because you don't leave the house.

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    and I have never worn one.
    Again, that could be because you don't leave the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    That could be because you don't leave the house.



    Again, that could be because you don't leave the house.


    Don't you mean shouldn't leave the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    Don't you mean shouldn't leave the house.
    Or not allowed out!

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    It is odd that someone who purports to have science-based education could write this and not see the obvious flaw in the thinking behind it.


    It is not superior knowledge - it is a matter of 'thinking' A mask does not stop you breathing - right? If you can breathe IN and OUT while wearing a mask - since a virus is airborne - then you can breathe IN and OUT viruses - is that not right? I have not witnessed ONE person wearing a mask correctly - this means that all those wearing masks are protecting people as much as I am - and I have never worn one.


    Thankfully real scientists know that science isn't a binary thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by said View Post
    Hospital staff do what they are instructed to do or lose their jobs. Surgeons do not have to wear masks - many do because if they are doing precision work using both hands and they cough or sneeze it could be quite damaging for the patient if the surgeon has to drop the blade to get out a handkerchief to cough or sneeze into.

    It is absolutely clear that you do not understand science. If you did you would not be making such claims, you would be agreeing with me..

    Of course businesses are anti distancing - business is selling as many products as possible, the more people the merrier!
    You often bristle at being called a "conspiracy theorist," preferring to call yourself a 'conspiracy analyst.'

    Rolling with that: I ask you if you rate yourself as being any good at being a conspiracy analyst?

    Do you think the quality of your output compares favourably, for example, with this?

    The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-...-box-at-wuhan/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    You often bristle at being called a "conspiracy theorist," preferring to call yourself a 'conspiracy analyst.'

    Rolling with that: I ask you if you rate yourself as being any good at being a conspiracy analyst?

    Do you think the quality of your output compares favourably, for example, with this?

    The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-...-box-at-wuhan/
    Interestingly 'Pandora's box' was mistranslated.
    By some accounts it was a jar the type spirit (good and bad ashes) from the dead would have been kept.

    The person opening the jar (a generic foolish man' )took a risk on which omen he released.

    Generic foolish ancient man only ever had a binary choice (good or evil).
    It took the Russians to add roulette and the CIA to put conspiracy theory into common usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    You often bristle at being called a "conspiracy theorist," preferring to call yourself a 'conspiracy analyst.'

    Rolling with that: I ask you if you rate yourself as being any good at being a conspiracy analyst?

    Do you think the quality of your output compares favourably, for example, with this?

    The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-...-box-at-wuhan/


    The trouble is Trump mist descended when he spoke of the "Chains Virus" and the intelligence he had seen.

    Now he has gone to play golf and the orange mist is clearing from the short thinkers brains we just might get some more information.

    Laying the blame at China's door is a political atom bomb

    The Chinese have already gone out of their way to clean up.

    There are still people who think Iraq didn't have WMD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert Region View Post
    You often bristle at being called a "conspiracy theorist," preferring to call yourself a 'conspiracy analyst.'

    Rolling with that: I ask you if you rate yourself as being any good at being a conspiracy analyst?

    Do you think the quality of your output compares favourably, for example, with this?

    The origin of COVID: Did people or nature open Pandora’s box at Wuhan?

    https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-...-box-at-wuhan/
    Come, come now. Your link to an analysis of the two possible answers is based on sound scientific evidence from credible sources. The similarity to Said's missives was so overwhelming that I had to search the acknowledgments expecting to see her/his name cited there.

    Thanks for the link though. It was a long read, but I ploughed through it at a snail's pace and learned quite a lot. I was interested to read that the US National Institutes for Health & the National Institute of Allergies & Infectious Diseases funded the Wuhan lab. for 5 years until May 2019. That, and the conflict of interest of the two virologists who vigorously denied that the virus could have escaped, couldn't help but give me pause for thought. Coupled with the way the virus evolved to be able to infect humans, it's conceivable that it didn't evolve naturally. Food for thought!

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