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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Thanks for the link....it gives the name of the Far Eastern multinational: Hyundai. Btw, the 17,000+ sq metre extension was intended as just the start (i.e. Phase One). They were intending to expand it very much further over a ten year period. A quiet rural setting like Smithy Lane (which btw forms part of the Lancashire Cycleway) is no place to put a giant factory!
    Precisely, which is exactly why planning officers refused permission.





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    That's the way agriculture is going.
    Everything big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by local View Post
    That's the way agriculture is going.
    Everything big.
    Often the case, producers going for 'economy of scale'. I'd happily welcome Hyundai to the Northwest, provided they go about it the right way and set up shop in the right place. Had I a seat on the planning committee, the last place I'd want to substantially increase the level of HGV movements, would be along the Lancashire Cycleway.
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    Do you know how much extra HGV traffic this scheme would have created?

    One or two lorries per day would not create a significant inconvenience for your daily dozen cyclists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millsey View Post
    Do you know how much extra HGV traffic this scheme would have created?

    One or two lorries per day would not create a significant inconvenience for your daily dozen cyclists.
    That level of use would make little difference....But the eventual size of the factory by the time phase four was completed, would require HGV movements far in excess of that. Bear in mind, it's not uncommon for HGV's servicing distribution depots to operate nights, resulting in them rumbling past peoples properties on Smithy Lane etc, at anti-social hours.

    The sheer number of employees cars in and out by itself would swamp Smithy Lane, becoming nose-to-tail twice a day. And what if it operated on a 24/7 shift system? Noise and chaos in the lane every 6am, 2pm and 10pm. Nah, let them do it on the industrial estate, where it won't bother anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    That level of use would make little difference....But the eventual size of the factory by the time phase four was completed, would require HGV movements far in excess of that. Bear in mind, it's not uncommon for HGV's servicing distribution depots to operate nights, resulting in them rumbling past peoples properties on Smithy Lane etc, at anti-social hours.

    The sheer number of employees cars in and out by itself would swamp Smithy Lane, becoming nose-to-tail twice a day. And what if it operated on a 24/7 shift system? Noise and chaos in the lane every 6am, 2pm and 10pm. Nah, let them do it on the industrial estate, where it won't bother anyone.
    But "far in excess of that", maybe 10 HGV journeys per day? Regarding employee cars, maybe another ten in and ten out per day. Your argument simply does not stack up. And if the traffic became a problem, it would be for the council to sort it out. Do you actually have any numbers to support what you are saying?

    Your argument is emotional not rational.

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    grow your own mega better than farmed an less trouble than tomatoes.an thereeasy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justbecause View Post
    Q. How do you turn a thread about mushrooms into yet another cycling rant?

    A. Invite a w*nker like PNP to comment.

    You do leave yourself wide open for a wind up, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by millsey View Post
    But "far in excess of that", maybe 10 HGV journeys per day? Regarding employee cars, maybe another ten in and ten out per day. Your argument simply does not stack up. And if the traffic became a problem, it would be for the council to sort it out. Do you actually have any numbers to support what you are saying?

    Your argument is emotional not rational.

    Millsey
    Actual number would only become apparent when it was too late to do much about it....But from the scale of development proposed in all four phases, they appear to be aiming at becoming the main supplier of mushrooms for the UK. In which case, the volume of traffic would be significant - far more than poor little Smithy Lane was ever meant to cope with.

    It's already plenty busy enough down there, with cars and vans in and out of the large residential caravan park all day long. Whereas, the industrial estate is hardly more than a mile away and the perfect place to put a large factory. Let them set up there, then they can make a few bob by selling off the existing site for housing. That would be a far more appropriate use for the old site and less of a nightmare for the residents of Smithy Lane.
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    Taxi for the PnP.................Sorry cancel that...................Decided he is using his bike...........

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