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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A) Wrong.....Stoves have controls to regulate both air in and flue out, whereby heat output is determined. Where I sometimes slip up, is to go do something else after lighting the stove. Whereas, the stove needs 'turning down' after about 30mins, not only to save fuel but to prevent the room becoming too hot.

    B) Not so. Modern stoves have an efficiency rating of 80%+. Compare that to a typical open fireplace, whose efficiency is a mere 30%. As for gas fires, anecdotally they are expensive to run, which tells me they aren't so efficient.
    Does it shut off when required temperature is reached like a gas or oil boiler with a thermostat no it keeps on burning full belt therefore wasting fuel and energy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    Does it shut off when required temperature is reached like a gas or oil boiler with a thermostat no it keeps on burning full belt therefore wasting fuel and energy
    It doesn't 'shut off', i.e. go out, when the room reaches a predetermined temperature. It's up to the owner, to adjust the controls downwards to a suitable level. A woodstove is at its optimum, when the air supply is adjusted so that the logs within are just 'gassing' nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    It doesn't 'shut off', i.e. go out, when the room reaches a predetermined temperature. It's up to the owner, to adjust the controls downwards to a suitable level. A woodstove is at its optimum, when the air supply is adjusted so that the logs within are just 'gassing' nicely.
    So if it’s on constantly, even when the building is up to temperature surely that’s wasting energy, and you have very limited control over it except for a damper or two.

    Doesn’t really seem like progress, more like going backwards.

    Not sure how they arrive at 80%+ efficiency when there is so much wasted heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kippax View Post
    A) So if it’s on constantly, even when the building is up to temperature surely that’s wasting energy, and you have very limited control over it except for a damper or two.

    B) Doesn’t really seem like progress, more like going backwards.

    C) Not sure how they arrive at 80%+ efficiency when there is so much wasted heat.
    A) No different in that respect to a gas fire. The person operating it can 'turn it' up or down, depending how warm/cold they feel.

    B) Frees people up from gas suppliers and their rising bills. Adds interest to the proceedings/becomes something of a 'hobby' to some owners. Chucks out plenty heat.
    Uses a renewable fuel. Economical to run.

    C) It's because these stoves have an 'airwash' feature. Basically, any smoke is deflected/recirculate back within the combustion chamber, to ensure a complete burn.
    Not only ensuring a high level of efficiency, but that smoke doesn't end up going up the flue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A) No different in that respect to a gas fire. The person operating it can 'turn it' up or down, depending how warm/cold they feel.

    B) Frees people up from gas suppliers and their rising bills. Adds interest to the proceedings/becomes something of a 'hobby' to some owners. Chucks out plenty heat.
    Uses a renewable fuel. Economical to run.

    C) It's because these stoves have an 'airwash' feature. Basically, any smoke is deflected/recirculate back within the combustion chamber, to ensure a complete burn.
    Not only ensuring a high level of efficiency, but that smoke doesn't end up going up the flue.
    Are you telling us that, because other polluters are worse than you are then, your level of pollution is acceptable?
    Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2 View Post
    Are you telling us that, because other polluters are worse than you are then, your level of pollution is acceptable?
    I'm saying they use a #renewable fuel, which is far better for the planet than a gas fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    I'm saying they use a #renewable fuel, which is far better for the planet than a gas fire.
    If you didn't cut the trees down, they wouldn't need renewing.
    Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    I'm saying they use a #renewable fuel, which is far better for the planet than a gas fire.
    Your living in the past, you compare your stoves to open coal fires and gas fires, just how many of those type of fires are in use today?

    You may not have noticed, but sight of the “coal” man is rare these days and most of the gas fires in use are very much of the type giving a flame illusion rather than a heat source.

    I don’t imagine our family is any way exceptional, we haven’t had open fires of any description for around 50 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick2 View Post
    If you didn't cut the trees down, they wouldn't need renewing.
    Mankind has always used wood as a fuel since time immemorial.....Yet global warming was never a problem, till people began burning coal, oil and gas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silver fox View Post
    A) Your living in the past, you compare your stoves to open coal fires and gas fires, just how many of those type of fires are in use today?

    B) You may not have noticed, but sight of the “coal” man is rare these days and most of the gas fires in use are very much of the type giving a flame illusion rather than a heat source.
    A) In my experience, a great many properties have gas fires.

    B) That's what I said earlier, namely that gas fires may not be that efficient. Which wasn't a problem when gas was cheap. But with high gas prices, many are no longer used and have become little more than dust-traps. Which in part, is why people are taking them out and replacing with stoves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    A) No different in that respect to a gas fire. The person operating it can 'turn it' up or down, depending how warm/cold they feel.

    B) Frees people up from gas suppliers and their rising bills. Adds interest to the proceedings/becomes something of a 'hobby' to some owners. Chucks out plenty heat.
    Uses a renewable fuel. Economical to run.

    C) It's because these stoves have an 'airwash' feature. Basically, any smoke is deflected/recirculate back within the combustion chamber, to ensure a complete burn.
    Not only ensuring a high level of efficiency, but that smoke doesn't end up going up the flue.
    a) But very much a single room heat emitter with no thermostatic control

    b). Whether the room is up to temperature or not, as I’ve said before, if it’s burning all of the time = wasted energy.

    c). Only the end user has control of what is being burnt and what pollutants are released.

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    Our headlong rush to wind and solar is creating its own perfect storm as prices rise

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Mankind has always used wood as a fuel since time immemorial.....Yet global warming was never a problem, till people began burning coal, oil and gas!
    Mankind has deforested much of the planet, populations have mushroomed, energy needs and demands have exploded, wood didn’t, couldn’t keep up with all this, alternative fuels were needed, with hindsight easy to say we should or shouldn’t have taken a particular course, your options were only to restrict population at a level to continue with a fairly basic life style, cut the population by at least 50%, uninvent most technology, good luck with that.

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    Your right the elephant in the room is overpopulation.

    As often said if UK PLC shut down tomorrow it would have little impact on the planet's problems.

    Perhaps Gretas handlers need to change her speeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The PNP View Post
    Mankind has always used wood as a fuel since time immemorial.....Yet global warming was never a problem, till people began burning coal, oil and gas!
    That's a cop out, and cannot excuse your wanton destruction of all those beautiful trees.
    Just be yourself, no one else is better qualified!!

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